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The weird people you meet in Group Finder.


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ZETA_SCORPII
08.04.2013 , 06:24 AM | #641
Mix MMO vets with MMO noobs and you get a very unproductive game. Mandatory class training before you are allowed to group up would solve a few issues imo.

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amcdoog
08.04.2013 , 03:11 PM | #642
I have horrible luck with healers.

My 24 guard tank gets a queue for mando raiders sm, with 2 commando dps, and a sage healer. Seeing as one commando dps is quite well geared (almost has same HP as me, with his aim high as well) I put guard on him. As a guardian I find commando dps tough to compete with for aggro, due to their aoes and good single target. It makes sense to me to guard him over anyone else, due to threat reasons. Immediately, before we even pull the healer cries out for a guard. I tell him the dps is more likely to pull threat. He then says he will quit if he does not get a guard. I really dislike people who act like that, so I continue to try and reason with him rather than giving him guard. He drops group before first pull. He then sends me rude messages calling me "a fcking horrible tank," and "dumber than a pile of rocks" and tells me that guard does nothing about threat all it does if reflect damage to me. Before I could respond he ignores me. It's things like this that make me hate grouping.
I think we need a sword in a box......

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Vegabond
08.04.2013 , 05:20 PM | #643
Quote: Originally Posted by amcdoog View Post
I have horrible luck with healers.

My 24 guard tank gets a queue for mando raiders sm, with 2 commando dps, and a sage healer. Seeing as one commando dps is quite well geared (almost has same HP as me, with his aim high as well) I put guard on him. As a guardian I find commando dps tough to compete with for aggro, due to their aoes and good single target. It makes sense to me to guard him over anyone else, due to threat reasons. Immediately, before we even pull the healer cries out for a guard. I tell him the dps is more likely to pull threat. He then says he will quit if he does not get a guard. I really dislike people who act like that, so I continue to try and reason with him rather than giving him guard. He drops group before first pull. He then sends me rude messages calling me "a fcking horrible tank," and "dumber than a pile of rocks" and tells me that guard does nothing about threat all it does if reflect damage to me. Before I could respond he ignores me. It's things like this that make me hate grouping.
That sounds like about 1/5 of the healers I encounter while doing lowbie FP's, sometimes 55s as well

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amcdoog
08.04.2013 , 05:39 PM | #644
Quote: Originally Posted by Vegabond View Post
That sounds like about 1/5 of the healers I encounter while doing lowbie FP's, sometimes 55s as well
Glad I'm not alone...lol.
I think we need a sword in a box......

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Atyaman
08.05.2013 , 04:06 AM | #645
I usually just try to forget the bad experiences, and remember only the good ones
However in this last week I switched sides from Rep to Imp to level my Op healer and PT tank. Well… it was a quite surreal experience. There are some bads on the Rep side of my server, that’s true, but on the dark side it’s like 75% of the time, there’s at least one terribad/weirdo/clueless player.

I got into a False Emperor FP with my tank. As a reflex I’ve put my guard on the highest mainstat melee dps, an assassin in this case. Suddenly he tells me to put it on the healer. When I say nope, it’s fine where it is atm, he still insisted to put it on the healer. I’ve just told him: well, be my guest and tank, if you know better. His reply was, and I quote: “No, I am no tank, I’m dps. Pls put the guard on the healer or I leave.” At that point I started to get fed up, since I was after a very tiring day and it was 4 o’clock in the morning. Despite of my better sense, somehow I still tried to reason with him by asking, “do you know anything about how agro management in swtor?” Now also the healer chimed in, telling her point of view: “well, you should put it on the most threat generating dps, maybe the sniper” (her guildie btw ). Still, the assassin couldn’t be reasoned with so after a final cry for justice on his part (basically repeating to put it on the healer or he leaves), I’ve simply answered: “Don’t let the door hit you on the arse. Btw if you’re outta here, please look up how tanking works in the game. cya. The healer lol’d, the assa left
The replacement was a little bit clueless (at least that’s how I put it, ‘cause the healer used the words f***ing and idiot), pulling before me, or pulling when three of us were avoiding, trying to ninja on a drop, but passing on the other.

Another time, now at lvl55 with my healer, I got into Athiss. One of the players, a sniper, opened on the wrong group of mobs. Unfortunately I haven’t seen it before too late and we wiped. The tank immediately called for a vote kick on the sniper. I myself voted not to kick and told the tank, that I wouldn’t kick the dps for one mistake. Reply was: he’s alwys doing that. And with that the tank left, even before the dps could‘ve said: who are you?
Unfortunately we got no queue pop for a tank replacement, so I just switch to my PT and queued to get In the same group with a new healer.
Rest of the FP went smooth. Except, when the same sniper agroed a sorc (maybe got pushed into it), next to the guardian that I was holding. Ofc with two mobs only we never came close to a wipe, and at least we had an excuse to make a few jokes

But there are countless little weird moments in PUG FPs.
Like the guardian tank, which I had to heal through a HM Cademimu in his Black Hole dps gear (I’ve asked him, to skip the bonus boss, and now I cannot help but wonder if I could’ve healed through that too).
Or the vanguard tank in his half dps gear (he said 1/3, which only proves he cannot count either), from whom we asked if he knows the tactics of the first boss of Mando Raiders (that question was not out of accident btw…). He said “yes I’ve done it before”, then he promptly started to tank one of the beasts, and when asked why didn’t he took the boss away, his reply was that “I couldn’t heal him if his far away”.
Again on the dark side, there was this lvl50 player, who apparently had no idea how to get into the Battle of Ilum FP. VIA GROUP FINDER! We tolerated him killing mobs on Ilum for about 10 mins, then when he said,” I’m going ” and by going he meant going to the fleet, he got booted.
Also in this same FP we had a sorc with 3k+ endurance and 2,2k+ willpower. My guildie asked what had he done for a dps gear? The reply was: Hehe, I’m always getting that question.” Well, in this case I think it stands to reason, why doesn’t he do a thing about it then
Or the quite funny moment when you realize that you have a level51 tank with 12k hp (!) in your PUG Xeno 8m SM group and not kicking him on sight. He was on the boss the whole time, never caring about anything, just tickling it with his lightsaber. The only thing saving him from getting the boot is that we’ve managed the fight at first try (as usual, since SM is really easy mode, at least for the decently geared players).

These are only the most recent moments that I remember, but I’m pretty sure there’ll be more weirdness when I log in today. Plus the triple of that on Tuesday in the new hardmode FPs xD

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Whojoo
08.06.2013 , 10:50 AM | #646
Here a little rant about a tank I met like 30 minutes ago.
I hopped on my 29 sorc alt and hit the groupfinder. Mandolorian Raiders SM pops up.

The group was doing well, lv 25 tank was a bit more suicide-ish than usual, but he had decent gear so I could easily heal him. And then we reached the dog pull...
As many of you know, this isn't the easiest of all. This time was no difference but it was doable until...
Group thought all were dead but I agrod the last one due to healing. My force was at say 32% right now with a base force of 500 (I know I should get middle tree but I never had trouble with 500 force).
Keep in mind that I am the only one who knows there is 1 dog left.

At this moment I type in help, hoping the tank would pause for a second to regain some health. No he rushed in with like 74% health (not that low but still, you're engaging a boss) while I still have a dog attacking me AND I had already typed help in the chat.
There we went, fighting with me having huge trouble keeping evyone alive since my force is really low at the moment. Lucky one of the dps aided me for a moment and we made it.

Next part went ... well the tank wanted to kill all the things and we wanted to skip. Whatever things went fine anyway. The rebublic boarding party went fine.

Later on close before Mavrix you have 2 turrets. You know those things that you cant skip, just impossible (keep in mind, lvl 25-30 people). The tank decides to skip them, like leaping to Mavrix and skipping the turrets.
Wait wut? Yes really... My tank who wanted to kill ALL the things decided that he wanted to skip the turrets which cant be skipped. The 2 dps and I were just.. we didn't know what to say. I still cant believe it actually.
So the tank skipped the first 2 turrets. I throw a bubble on tank and turn dps mode to make sure those turrets are daed before Mavrix jumps to a corner.
So the turrets got killed and we went to the tank. Eventually We're getting at the hopping part where Mavrix jumps to corners and spawns 2 turrets
Guess what the genius tank does.. Yes indeed he ignored the turrets.
For some reason he was not that hard to heal so I could add in some dps and all went fine in the end, but still... I told him multiple times to focus on turrets first, at the last corner he fianlly listend.

So I decided to write this post while queu'ing for another flashpoint.
All went very well, met some nice people and a marauder needing on the 2 things I need, and winning both (remember, I am a sorcerer, I need willpower stuff and he doesnt). First time he wanted to give it to me, but he was limited by this games free to play limit. He can't trade! For some reason I was in a forgiving mood and decided not to kick him. This led to him ninja'ing the second willpower thing I needed. This time I 'yelled' at him and he told me to fk off......

Rant over.
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Sai-Ular
08.06.2013 , 01:32 PM | #647
I recently healed for a 55 HM and joined in a group that was already in progress. They were at the first boss and the original healer quit after a few wipes. I eagerly jumped in to help as I was a well geared, experienced healer and I had done this particular FP MANY times before. In short I was very confident that we would be fine.

A long story short... we wiped... HARD. I just couldn't keep the tank up despite all my effort. I thought I failed until I checked the tanks armor and discovered he was in DPS gear but had Q'd as a tank. He had NO damage mitigation what-so-ever.

I brought this up as gently as posible (really, I said it very kindly) and got insta-flamed. I was told that if I was a better healer he wouldn't have died and we wouldn't have wiped. I very quickly figured out why the last healer quit. I attempted to see if the tank had some TANK'y' gear to put on but again was insta-flamed for my suggestion. I apologized and quit the group as it was very apparent it was not going to be able to be completed.

I quickly learned two things... :
1) Always check the "tanks" gear
and...
2) There are some arrogant, angry people in the random GF.

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wetslampigduex
08.06.2013 , 02:30 PM | #648
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I quite possibly had the worst healer in the galaxy today.

Hammer station story mode, I am tanking on my new juggernaut, and get into a group with a 19 sorc healer 19 merc dps and a 15 sniper. We greet each other and go on to the first pull, which the sorc pulls, not bothering to wait for me. We go through a few pulls and I have not received a single heal....and died 3x. I ask for heals and point out to the sorc (who was attacking a target with his saber) that he heals. He says he knows. We wipe on some more trash (sorc was overloading every.single.pull.) We get to first boss where the sorc types "WAIT FOR MY FORCE TO COME BACK" we wait while he sits there doing nothing. I tell him to seethe to regen force and he does and seems amazed. On boss he lets me pull, but then runs up, overloads and thrash spams until he is out of force, causing me to die to the laser. He then says "sorry was outta force" and the dps clean up the boss. We keep going with his overloading and meleeing and remarkably nobody dies. We then arrive at the second boss where he types again "WAIT FOR MY FORCE TO COME BACK" despite him being at full health and force. He stands there and then rapidly types "go" and pulls the boss, making my job even harder. He runs around with his rotation and magically we do not die.

The boss drops a cunning vibroknife meant for the sniper, but the sorc needs on it. We ask why. He says Khem needs it. ./facepalm. We tell him Khem does not use a knife. The sorc continually says he does. We just let it drop. Mostly the same stuff with trash until some before final boss, in which the sorc commands me to heal (during combat) because he is out of force. He has no idea that I already blew my stack of medpacks due to his lack of heals, and rages at me when I do not use my magic heal skill that all level 16 juggernauts posess. Rest of the run was uneventful, besides his standard "NO FORCE" cry before each battle. He still managed to keep up his massive dps "thrash/overload rotation, and even ran into the sweeping gunfire (I had boss turned around and was sidestepping it.) He was promptly added to ignore.
This is priceless right here, had me LOL'ing..... I don't even wanna think about writing one of these because almost every single FP I've run in the past 3 weeks could be in here. Have all 3 tanks, been getting healers that refuse to heal me without guard. Healers that refuse to heal me out of combat EVERY single time. Assassin DPS in dark charge standing 10-15 meters out using only force lighting(every 45 seconds or so). PT DPS standing 30 meters away the entire time. Healer with 22k HP telling me I was a bad tank and my gear sucked cause I don't have 40k HP(was on my PT with 2400 point stat budget ideally distributed according to KBN #'s). That healer also kept ************ at me cause " I wasn't holding agro"... well yeah when he pulls a pack of lizards in athiss at the same time I do, ill let him try and tank it... I lived... he died in 2 secs .... it's the same every single Tuesday.. ill leave work in a few min here and prob get 3-6 of the worst pug HM FP's ever... I honestly should start recording them

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Revenaught
08.06.2013 , 02:44 PM | #649
Quote: Originally Posted by wetslampigduex View Post
This is priceless right here, had me LOL'ing..... I don't even wanna think about writing one of these because almost every single FP I've run in the past 3 weeks could be in here. Have all 3 tanks, been getting healers that refuse to heal me without guard. Healers that refuse to heal me out of combat EVERY single time. Assassin DPS in dark charge standing 10-15 meters out using only force lighting(every 45 seconds or so). PT DPS standing 30 meters away the entire time. Healer with 22k HP telling me I was a bad tank and my gear sucked cause I don't have 40k HP(was on my PT with 2400 point stat budget ideally distributed according to KBN #'s). That healer also kept ************ at me cause " I wasn't holding agro"... well yeah when he pulls a pack of lizards in athiss at the same time I do, ill let him try and tank it... I lived... he died in 2 secs .... it's the same every single Tuesday.. ill leave work in a few min here and prob get 3-6 of the worst pug HM FP's ever... I honestly should start recording them
Why would you expect a healer to heal you out of combat? You are supposed to use your own rest ability to heal up between fights.
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sithBracer
08.06.2013 , 03:42 PM | #650
Quote: Originally Posted by Revenaught View Post
Why would you expect a healer to heal you out of combat? You are supposed to use your own rest ability to heal up between fights.
Probably not to lose rage points and to keep a quicker pace. Pretty sure he meant topping him off not healing from 15% or less.