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The weird people you meet in Group Finder.


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-DSR-
07.25.2013 , 07:43 AM | #581
The moment you realize your tank is really crap is....

when you pull massive heal aggro as watchman sentinel.

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WooliestWorm
07.25.2013 , 10:02 AM | #582
Quote: Originally Posted by -DSR- View Post
The moment you realize your tank is really crap is....

when you pull massive heal aggro as watchman sentinel.
To be fair you kinda have to wonder what the healer is up to if that's happening as well.

One story I had was story mode Athiss. I was on my mara dpsing, and it was the healer's first time in. Went well until we got to the final boss, first fireball phase and the healer drops, soon after the other dps falls to the dot and the tank is also dead. At this point the rest of the group decides it's time to start running back in so it's now just me and the boss with me spamming everything I can to stay alive on a carnage mara (no self heals unfortunately).

After a bit the group gets back, tank taunts off me and I have a bit of rest time (still dpsing but at least I'm not solo any more). Then the next fireball phase after they get back comes and I get a bizarre sense of deja vu. Suffice to say by the time the boss dies I'm the only left in the rooms again. Wasn't a bad group was just quite funny how the fight turned out with the healers inexperience.

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Never_Hesitate
07.25.2013 , 10:30 AM | #583
Quote: Originally Posted by WooliestWorm View Post
To be fair you kinda have to wonder what the healer is up to if that's happening as well.
That's what I thought too.

Quote: Originally Posted by WooliestWorm View Post
One story I had was story mode Athiss. I was on my mara dpsing, and it was the healer's first time in. Went well until we got to the final boss, first fireball phase and the healer drops, soon after the other dps falls to the dot and the tank is also dead. At this point the rest of the group decides it's time to start running back in so it's now just me and the boss with me spamming everything I can to stay alive on a carnage mara (no self heals unfortunately).

After a bit the group gets back, tank taunts off me and I have a bit of rest time (still dpsing but at least I'm not solo any more). Then the next fireball phase after they get back comes and I get a bizarre sense of deja vu. Suffice to say by the time the boss dies I'm the only left in the rooms again. Wasn't a bad group was just quite funny how the fight turned out with the healers inexperience.
Short term memory like a gold fish

I once had to kill the end boss of hs sm by myself as a tank from 50% on, as the other ones were taking dmg like I had never seen before (Standing together in every aoe and running into the boss while he was casting his cone attack) but that's not that difficult because in theory 99% of the dmg the boss does is avoidable (the healer didn't even have to heal me much when he was alive)
T3-M4 - Lvl 55 Chars:
T'hana Jugg, Saleona Sniper, S'inthoras Mara,Hannahla Merc, Eleondra&Eleondraa Ops,
Leeonira Sorc, CaphalÝr Sorc, Kindarya Assa, LeoniŽ PT,
Revuna Mando, Leojuna Scoundrel, Simon'e Shadow, Sileona Guardian

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xBenouze
07.25.2013 , 03:53 PM | #584
Quote: Originally Posted by WooliestWorm View Post
To be fair you kinda have to wonder what the healer is up to if that's happening as well.
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
That's what I thought too.
Did u already play as healer ?

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-DSR-
07.25.2013 , 04:08 PM | #585
The healer didn't really dare to heal that much, as the tank was concentrating so hard on killing his one mob
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SikeruT
07.25.2013 , 11:47 PM | #586
I've got these two:

# Few days ago, after finishing with my brand new L69 gear augmentation, I decided to queue for a 55HM with my PT and get my daily done. Queue pops for Mando HM, sin and mara DPS and a sorc heals. We managed to LoS on the sucky pulls and burn every group without any issues, and we get to the first boss. As usual, I drop my mark on first hound, and ask for a rcheck. Fight starts, goes smoothly and nice, but I began to notice the sin dropping a taun on certain ocassions. Didn't gave it a thought, and decided to ignore it. Then it became more and more often, until the point he starting pulling before I did. "Sin, do you wanna tank?" was my question. Got no response. I gotta admit I often get way too heated on these kind of situations, but I ignored it, and decided to get a bit ahead of them to jetcharge on everything that needed to get down. We got to the 2nd boss, the pub boarding party. I'm used to tank this boss on middle, holding aggro on the consu, smuggler and trooper, dropping an occasional taunt on the knight and making her join the crowd for the use of AoEs. But in this case, I see the sin possitioning in the classic LoS spot, and calling us there. "I can handle the aggro on mid" I said, and the response was a taunt, so we stacked up right there, and burned 3/4 down. Last one was the consu, and I know his AoE is fatal, so I left the stack, and taunted him over the ramp and moved around as the AoE was hitting ground. "Why did you aggro?" was my question "Because you don't know what you're saying" he said. I raged and told him that this wasn't my first time, that I knew the mechanics and that there's a lot of ways of doing every fight. We got to Gill, and my DPS pair kept staying with the boss during the whole AoE phase, so I decided to taunt him away and move around the room, trying to make the healer's job easier. We wiped. After that, I started a votekick on this sin, and argued a bit with him. "Too much drama, I'm out" says the healer, and I find myself alone with the mara. We managed to find replacements for healer and DPS, killed Gill, the pair of turrets and moved to last boss. No more aggro issues, no more lack of DPS.

#Fresh 50 PT, tank. I managed to stack 23k health with purple gear and some augments I made with my armstech. Queued up for a flashpoint and got a team for D7 HM. I say hi everyone, and my response was "Guard" from the sorc healer. I dropped my guard on him, since I knew how the "no guard = no heals" situation goes, and decided not to step on one of those. I proposed to skip most of it, and the group agreed. Our sorc DPS was having some troubles, and needing to be afk sometimes. "we can clean trash" was my fellow marauder suggestion, on which we decided to move ahead the next group of mobs. Suddenly my screen shakes, and I find myself being pulled by my sorc healer. "Wait for him!!". I told him we could clean the trash mobs after the first elite without an issue, but my response when I was about to jetcharge at the group, was another pull. The sorc came back, we cleaned the trash and blew up the pile of explosives to drop a bridge and move to the second part of the flashpoint. But again, right before I engaged every group, the sorc kept pulling me over and over again. Figured the guy was a troll, and decided to leave the flashpoint and type /ignore on my troll friend. Funny thing is that after that, as a fresh 55 (1 week later) guildies decided to pug for KP, and we find our pulling sorcerer inside the pug. After stop ignoring him, he whispered a big apology to me and told me he was having a crappy day that time, and that's why he was so annoying.

Two of those you'd say, these guys don't like things done other way than theirs.
I heard once "Group finder taught me to adapt for the weirdest situations, and try my best at them"
Wise words, but hard, really hard to do.
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Never_Hesitate
07.26.2013 , 12:21 AM | #587
Quote: Originally Posted by xBenouze View Post
Did u already play as healer ?
Yes, just look in my sig and I even played as a healer yesterday, that's why I wrote it.
Before a sent/mara pulls heal aggro, the healer normally does, that's why I had the aggro of most mobs in my cademimu sm and boarding party sm run yesterday, a bad tank who only hits one mob (even worse is when the dps are bad too and they don't kill away the thrash from small to big, so more things hit on you longer)


PS: It's always funny as a healer to look at the tanks procs/buffs
Yesterday I(31 ops heal) had a jugg tank in the cade sm run I already mentioned, he clearly had know idea of tanking, even the most basic tanking principles couldn't be recognized in him (guard, try to get things of the healer, positioning, I liked it more when the mara tanked, because he actually knew his stuff)
We got to the lobby where the bunch of standard mobs drop from the ceiling, that's where I noticed a proc he got, it was from the rage tree.
We got to the last boss (I had to heal my *** of so we could even get there) before he jumped in he used all his def cd's
After a very short while it didn't really matter, because the mara pulled aggro from him with ease and he tanked the boss until the end (no taunt was seen from the tank in this fight)
After we killed the boss I asked the tank "have you ever tanked before?" he responded with "I have an assa tank on lvl 55, but I just don't have my grasp on the jugg", somehow I still couldn't believe that he had tanked before.
T3-M4 - Lvl 55 Chars:
T'hana Jugg, Saleona Sniper, S'inthoras Mara,Hannahla Merc, Eleondra&Eleondraa Ops,
Leeonira Sorc, CaphalÝr Sorc, Kindarya Assa, LeoniŽ PT,
Revuna Mando, Leojuna Scoundrel, Simon'e Shadow, Sileona Guardian

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RoninJr
07.26.2013 , 09:12 AM | #588
Just went into an utterly horrific Mando Raiders (55HM FP). From the beginning there was a problem; the healer and our DPS had at least 5k health more than the tank, which was quite clearly sporting a mix of Rakata/Black Hole/Hazmat. MDPS says the tank's gonna get creamed; I say stick it out 'cos the healer is damned good. The tank takes damage like it's going out of style, but our healer keeps him alive.

First boss:
  1. The dogs go after us as planned at first
  2. However, the tank then decides to come over and 'help' us DPS the dogs. With the boss following behind.
  3. The MDPS is screaming at him to get the %^$& away; he doesn't listen
  4. Everyone gets horrendously low on health
  5. We barely manage to beat the boss.

There aren't many hiccups, but at this point everyone online in our guild is getting a running commentary on the tank's 'issues'.

Boarding Party boss:
  1. The tank sets up a sin's shelter, which the healer heals from; I suspect it's the only reason the tank stayed alive
  2. it all goes to hell after the smugg dies and the trooper's the only one left.
  3. First the tank dies
  4. Then the healer gets wailed on because of lack of tank
  5. Then the MDPS dies to a full auto
  6. Then I get murdered by what I suspect is the basic attack.
  7. We try again and get them.

Then, in the bonus boss room, the tank walks off the ledge and dies. We all lose it in mumble and start ROFLMAOing.

Bonus boss:
  1. The boss goes straight for me in about five seconds despite the fact I've already gone for my aggro dropper.
  2. The tank stands there doing nothing for a while,, then taunts and promptly runs away, taking the boss and the MDPS with him
  3. The tank then starts kiting and promptly dies. The MDPS tanks for a bit while I battle rez him.
  4. The tank proceeds to do everything BUT keep the boss in one spot. The MDPS is forced to chase the boss everywhere.
  5. By this point, the rest of my guildies are adding their own running commentary.
  6. We finally manage to kill the boss.

The tank runs into the room and is promptly practically one shotted before the healer can get to him. The MDPS tanks and then I pull the aggro off him. After this, we spend so long outside the final boss room I begin to wonder if there is a newly discovered strat in which we pull the boss out of the room.

The final boss went not too badly, actually. We got through the fight alive, although as mentioned before the tank was taking crazy amounts of damage. After saying our goodbyes, the tank promptly went on our ignore list.

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Razamatazz
07.26.2013 , 09:41 AM | #589
I had my first bad run on my healer last night. I got a SM Athiss, my first Athiss run as heals. We all get in and I notice my tank is wearing a trooper chest piece, my first thought after seeing this is "please don't let this run be a 'Weird people you meet in group finder' run". I attempt to inspect him but he's off and running already. Get to the elevator to go down into the ruins and the DPS sage in the group slices it, tank jumps down the other side anyways, I don't think too much of it, just a little nervous that he's kind of rushing in but whatever. So, we go to pick up the explosives, fight starts, when my bubble goes down on him his health starts dropping fast for what I'm used too, "that's odd" I think to myself and check his buffs. He's not in Soresu form, I ask him to switch, but loot distribution covers my request and he runs off. I continue to ask him to switch occassionaly but he just keeps going and rushing into fights until he finally goes down, I couldn't get my bubble back up on him and the DPS started pulling aggro. Once he comes back I inspect his gear, he's wearing level 10 or 15 trooper gear in some slots, mostly greens.

We get to the first boss and actually manage to take it. At this point I'm getting frustrated but I'm willing to work with him, so now I'm starting to push that he needs to be in Soresu and the DPS with me start to say the same thing. Now he starts talking to us, saying he's French and is having a hard time understanding what we're saying. This frustrates me, now, I feel bad and don't want to be rude, but its a NA East Coast server man, you kind of need to be able to commuicate if you're going to pick an American server, if you don't then pick a European server, that's why they're there, ya know? So, anyway, as I'm trying to now break this language barrier and get the point that he needs to switch to Soresu across he runs off and starts fighting again, I make it to him when he has like 25% health left, I get him healed up but the DPS have peeled everything off him, he goes down while I'm trying to get the DPS up and we wipe. At this point one DPS initiates a vote kick. I've never vote kicked before, but now he says "what's you're reason?" We explain he needs to switch to a tanking stance because he's queued as a tank. He types in all caps "WHAT YOUR LANGUAGE MEAN?"

So, my first acceptance of a vote kick ever, and first story for The Weird People You Meet in Group Finder.

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Never_Hesitate
07.26.2013 , 09:50 AM | #590
Quote: Originally Posted by Razamatazz View Post
Now he starts talking to us, saying he's French and is having a hard time understanding what we're saying. This frustrates me, now, I feel bad and don't want to be rude, but its a NA East Coast server man, you kind of need to be able to commuicate if you're going to pick an American server, if you don't then pick a European server, that's why they're there, ya know?
I play on JKS (german server) and I tell everyone who only speaks english/french to please reroll on an english/french server (they're mostly in the region of lvl 1-20 so it wouldn't hurt so much)

It's not that I'm unable to speak english (however I don't know much french) it's for their good, so they can really enjoy the community and are not kicked from most groups they encounter.

I always wonder how one can ignore the "language" column in the server selection
T3-M4 - Lvl 55 Chars:
T'hana Jugg, Saleona Sniper, S'inthoras Mara,Hannahla Merc, Eleondra&Eleondraa Ops,
Leeonira Sorc, CaphalÝr Sorc, Kindarya Assa, LeoniŽ PT,
Revuna Mando, Leojuna Scoundrel, Simon'e Shadow, Sileona Guardian