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The weird people you meet in Group Finder.


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zzoorrzz
06.24.2013 , 04:28 PM | #351
The weirdest people I meet are those who leave the group without saying a single word. Not disconnect, just leave. That's something I don't quite understand.

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RocketWoofus
06.25.2013 , 03:02 PM | #352
Running a Monday night EV HM for comms. Tuesday nights after the reset seems to have strong groups with good knowledge of the missions. Sunday and Monday nights are a real mixed bag of working folks (my case after a business trip for most of the week), alts of alts, and novices who had been unable to complete it in earlier tries. The general chat call for the run sounded like a quick dash for comms, but in this case turned out to be a guild run to help newer folks get gear. No problem, I help many folks get started. We have 12 level 55s and the rest at least 50, with health stats from 35k to 14k. We get through the first few bosses slowly, with bodies scattered all over the battlefield after each fight, but we are progressing. Loot goes almost exclusively to the leader's guildies, which is not a biggie as I am slumming here for the comms.

When we get to SOA's army for the one-on-one fights we are two folks shy due to drops, but no replies are coming from the ops lead who has sole invite control. After 3 wipes, I start looking at my teamates and private telling the ops lead and the individuals. A dps knight has no items in her saber, none. No hilt, mod, etc except a green crystal from many levels ago. Her reply was that she knew and that was why she was on the run. My reply that she stick something, anything in there was rebuffed as telling her what to do. The next sage I looked at had a level 34 saber. Purple 66 and 69s in her armor, but a 34 saber. Again a private tell was answered with "that is why I am on this run".

Look, I understand double exp has had some folks level quickly, but your weapon, especially the hilt or barrel slot is the sngle biggest effect on your damage, healing, or tanking ability. Purple 66 barrels are under 40k credits, saber hilts are around 60k. If you are going to run Hard Modes, please show up with some semblance of gear to accomplish your role. My main is a DPS armstech, so I bring and hand-out trooper and smuggler barrels. In the same run I got a gunslinger from a 52 to 66 barrel (free to a good home), but it looks like I may need to start carrying hilts as well.

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Michirure
06.26.2013 , 05:38 AM | #353
Quote: Originally Posted by zzoorrzz View Post
The weirdest people I meet are those who leave the group without saying a single word. Not disconnect, just leave. That's something I don't quite understand.
This boggles me also. I don't know, maybe some people think, communication in a MMO is obscene.

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Ardarell_Solo
06.26.2013 , 06:25 AM | #354
Weird, but in a good way:

I was DPS in a pug group for Ilum HM, back in the days when you were doing it for BH comms and basically avoiding every mob or boss except for the final one. So Guardian tank asks "Speedrun?" in group chat and everyone agrees.

But his idea of a speedrun was attacking everything in his way and not skipping anything - but he was extremely quick doing it and he was holding aggro on multiple mobs (back then without saber reflect, mind you) all the time, he was just a brilliant tank.

In the end the whole run took about 20 minutes (you can do it in 12 or so if you skip everything) with an absurd number of dead mobs on the way. That was definitely the best 20 minutes I have ever had in a pug group....


Weird, in a bad way, and my fault:

Mandalorian Raiders HM, me as slinger DPS, group finder puts me in group with three guys from the same guild. Before goup finder invite, I had just done Makeb Dailys, where I've adopted a fun strategy, but very bad habit for a DPS: Place XS Freighter in the group from afar, roll foward to the eilte mob, dirty kick him in the nuts, and melt down the group with more AoEs while Bowdaar grabs aggro from me and then finish the elite.

Stupid me, I didn't adapt my mind to my role as DPS with a real tank present and the stronger mobs in a 55HM FP. So I do the same thing as on Makeb on the first two pulls in MR HM, getting myself and the healer killed - and understandably get votekicked within seconds by the three guildies.

After that I whispered the tank to explain what I did and why and we end up having a nice chat so no additions to anyones ignore list and no harm done - except me feeling extremely stupid...
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AlrikFassbauer
06.26.2013 , 08:28 AM | #355
Quote: Originally Posted by Ifolad View Post
The shadow/sin tank with 40k hp who needs on everything in 55hm fp and says if it weren't for him we would be waiting in que for another tank therefore it's his reward for quing as tank!?!?!?!?
Interesting "logic". So this is for real ? Impressive.

Quote: Originally Posted by RocketWoofus View Post
but your weapon, especially the hilt or barrel slot is the sngle biggest effect on your damage, healing, or tanking ability.
It has ? That's new to me. I thought that the result was a calculated result of everything I wear - including Mods in the armor.
“ Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius – and a lot of courage – to move in the opposite direction.“ (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)

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theJediMaste
06.26.2013 , 08:55 AM | #356
The one instance that pops into my head was a TFB sm a few weeks back. It was a mostly guild run and I was on my guardian tank,we just needed to pug a tank. So we go into GF and get a pop. Then when everyone accepts and I zone in i see the tank is a vanguard wearing gear with crit/surge on most of his pieces,a green lvl 40-something implant,and a might stim. A MIGHT STIM,ON A VANGUARD TANK. Oh yea,he was somehow in ion cell. Then one of my guildies asked him about his gear and he said "it's so i can do damage" and im said "but your a tank" and he said "yea,so?" My response was a vote kick. We then had a guildie get on his tank and pug a dps who(luckily)was halfway competent and we finished the instance with no issues or wipes.

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Grimsblood
06.26.2013 , 09:05 AM | #357
Quote: Originally Posted by RocketWoofus View Post
Running a Monday night EV HM for comms. Tuesday nights after the reset seems to have strong groups with good knowledge of the missions. Sunday and Monday nights are a real mixed bag of working folks (my case after a business trip for most of the week), alts of alts, and novices who had been unable to complete it in earlier tries. The general chat call for the run sounded like a quick dash for comms, but in this case turned out to be a guild run to help newer folks get gear. No problem, I help many folks get started. We have 12 level 55s and the rest at least 50, with health stats from 35k to 14k. We get through the first few bosses slowly, with bodies scattered all over the battlefield after each fight, but we are progressing. Loot goes almost exclusively to the leader's guildies, which is not a biggie as I am slumming here for the comms.

When we get to SOA's army for the one-on-one fights we are two folks shy due to drops, but no replies are coming from the ops lead who has sole invite control. After 3 wipes, I start looking at my teamates and private telling the ops lead and the individuals. A dps knight has no items in her saber, none. No hilt, mod, etc except a green crystal from many levels ago. Her reply was that she knew and that was why she was on the run. My reply that she stick something, anything in there was rebuffed as telling her what to do. The next sage I looked at had a level 34 saber. Purple 66 and 69s in her armor, but a 34 saber. Again a private tell was answered with "that is why I am on this run".

Look, I understand double exp has had some folks level quickly, but your weapon, especially the hilt or barrel slot is the sngle biggest effect on your damage, healing, or tanking ability. Purple 66 barrels are under 40k credits, saber hilts are around 60k. If you are going to run Hard Modes, please show up with some semblance of gear to accomplish your role. My main is a DPS armstech, so I bring and hand-out trooper and smuggler barrels. In the same run I got a gunslinger from a 52 to 66 barrel (free to a good home), but it looks like I may need to start carrying hilts as well.
It is has been a while since I have done HM EV. But doesn't the main hand drop from KP?........why would you do EV to replace a main hand?

Quote: Originally Posted by AlrikFassbauer View Post
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It has ? That's new to me. I thought that the result was a calculated result of everything I wear - including Mods in the armor.
Your main hand barrel or hilt contributes other stats that you can not get off of mods/enhancements. You get your best upgrade through it.
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Shinjin
06.26.2013 , 01:17 PM | #358
Been doing a lot of group finder FPs to level my Sage. Sure, I've had to work through random drops and the occasional disconnect, but the last FP really chapped me.

Cademimu. We burned through to the last boss without issue, everyone seemed familiar with the fights. Tank engages, first missile fires, tank and one DPS are instantly incinerated. Here's where it gets weird.

The tank instantly quits the group. DPS revives at med center but of course the chamber doors are sealed. For the next 5+ minutes, the DPS commando and I fight the boss. Eventually, we get him down to ~10% health but by then I am just spent. After many Noble Sacrifices (no heals for me except for Force Mend), I just couldn't keep it up so we go down.

Commando says, and I paraphrase, "you're lvl 30 but your heals are insufficient" which I read as "it's your fault we failed." I normally don't get angry, but, given the course of events, that just really rubbed me the wrong way. He asked to go again, I just typed "no thanks, didn't appreciate the comment" and exited. Otherwise, he played a good commando. I'm open to criticism, but please don't start with blame.

Probably not a big deal to most hardened veterans, but that's been my first genuine "oh no he didn't just say that to me", and this being my fourth character and all.

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AlrikFassbauer
06.26.2013 , 02:39 PM | #359
With my level 28 Sage, this was really "insufficient" weeks ago. But level 30 ... I don't know.
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Jrea
06.26.2013 , 04:50 PM | #360
My favorite was a Shadow Tank (Easiest tank) in a slave girl outfit (teenage boy) who took long explained breaks (douche) who repeated every comment everyone typed with a "duh" on the end (mentally ill).

Group finder in a FTP game is like taking the buss, scary but gets you where you need to be.