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The weird people you meet in Group Finder.


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Tachenko_Yuri
05.12.2014 , 02:45 PM | #2981
Quote: Originally Posted by slafko View Post
I love pugging flashpoints on impside. There's always so much drama and crazy people, almost every GF pop guarantees a good story. Here's the latest one:

Cademimu HM. I'm on my healer sorc. GF pops, me and two deeps zone in. Tank's health is dropping and it's obivious he's doing dailies or whatever. I say "hi" and follow it up with "i'd like to do the bonus too". No replies. Not even a "hello". Two minutes later, the tank states he'll be joining as soon as he hands in the quest rewards. Thinking I'll have their attention now, I repeat my desire to do bonus and ask if everyone's okay with it. Tank zones in a few minutes later and by this time 10 minute have passed and we're still at the starting platform. I get guard tank starts moving. I ask for bonus a third time.

No replies.

We start clearing and, seeing as I'm guarded, I pull a group of mobs. They go down fast. I pull another group the tank ignored. They too go down fast but this time tank says "*** U DOIN". I say I'm pulling mobs so that we have enough kills to activate the bonus.

Tank: We're not doing bonus.
DPS1: I don't do bonus.
DPS2: LOL BONUS

Seeing as how they've wasted 15 minutes of my time and tried to hoax me into doing a run without a bonus by ignoring my questions, I politely ask to be vote kicked. One DPS fires it up, but the other two are deliberatly ignoring the votekick in hopes in blackmailing me to come on a run wihout bonus. Abuse starts when the kick fails and I'm still not moving from my position. Twenty+ minutes after the initial GF pop and loads of abuse later, they finally realise I can't be blackmailed and hoaxed so they votekick me. Three people on ignore, next GF pops - Cademimu with bonus. gg
You do realize that this you are "the drama and crazy people" for this one story, right?

Ignoring a 3v1 vote for not doing bonus, and pulling stuff before tank just because of said bonus that no1 wanted to do apart from yourself, makes you one of " the weird people you meet in the gf " gratz
Current Main: Lynètte
Commando Healer - Eternal Warrior - The Red Eclipse - Conquerer of Quesh/Voss/Makeb - Potentiae Guild

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Khevar
05.12.2014 , 03:01 PM | #2982
Quote: Originally Posted by Tachenko_Yuri View Post
You do realize that this you are "the drama and crazy people" for this one story, right?

Ignoring a 3v1 vote for not doing bonus, and pulling stuff before tank just because of said bonus that no1 wanted to do apart from yourself, makes you one of " the weird people you meet in the gf " gratz
You've GOT to be kidding me.

The tank takes 10 minutes to zone in, while slafko patiently waits. He asks several times to do the bonus, everyone ignores him. Suddenly the group doesn't want to do the bonus, slafko ASKS to be vote-kicked (so he doesn't get a lockout). The group then refuses to kick him.

And somehow, you think slafko is in the wrong? Did you misunderstand what happened or something?

If you wasted 10 minutes of someone else's time, ignored them in chat, were nasty to another player wanting to do the bonus, refused to kick that player (so they could re-queue), then you would be the turd in the story, not him.

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Tachenko_Yuri
05.12.2014 , 03:21 PM | #2983
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
You've GOT to be kidding me.

The tank takes 10 minutes to zone in, while slafko patiently waits. He asks several times to do the bonus, everyone ignores him. Suddenly the group doesn't want to do the bonus, slafko ASKS to be vote-kicked (so he doesn't get a lockout). The group then refuses to kick him.

And somehow, you think slafko is in the wrong? Did you misunderstand what happened or something?

If you wasted 10 minutes of someone else's time, ignored them in chat, were nasty to another player wanting to do the bonus, refused to kick that player (so they could re-queue), then you would be the turd in the story, not him.
Some points of general pugs knowledge:

1)most cases of " no reply " in chat usually means " no, and cba to argue over it " , but nvm that.

2)you see group attempting to skip stuff, you don't go and deliberately pull it anyways, which is exactly what the slafko person ( which wasn't even the tank ) did, and unsuprisingly, tank got mad.

3)in a 4 man group, if 3 say no bonus then, maths-wise, the bonus gets skipped. ( oh and btw if you stick around in a fp for sometime, you can quit and re-enter straight away without requesting the boot )

4) you don't hold up an entire group for one's needs, specially after pt.2 and 3, trying to impose yourself over the group despite 3 out of 4 of the group saying ( or showing ) that they didn't want to do bonus.

a little side-note of mine: 69 is now basically redundant gear, all that argument over a piece of it, just wasn't worth doing all that arguing, imo
Current Main: Lynètte
Commando Healer - Eternal Warrior - The Red Eclipse - Conquerer of Quesh/Voss/Makeb - Potentiae Guild

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Lord_Submarine
05.12.2014 , 03:57 PM | #2984
Quote: Originally Posted by Tachenko_Yuri View Post
Some points of general pugs knowledge:

1)most cases of " no reply " in chat usually means " no, and cba to argue over it " , but nvm that.
Last time I checked, no reply in the chat despite speaking the language always means being rude. Especially after you let someone wait for you for 10 minutes.

As for the rest of your post... I am not sure we read the same slafko's post, because I cannot see the things you described in that post.

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Khevar
05.12.2014 , 04:19 PM | #2985
Quote: Originally Posted by Tachenko_Yuri View Post
... trying to impose yourself over the group ...
Here's the problem. You somehow think that politely asking to do a bonus, waiting 10 minutes for the tank to zone in, then asking to be kicked from the group when it became apparent they DIDN'T want to do the bonus is "imposing".

On the contrary, that is actually rather polite behavior. When he realized his desires didn't coincide with the group, he wanted to join another group that did.

"Imposing" happened when the tank refused to vote-kick him, forcing the other player to either accept the group finder lockout, or skip the bonus against their will.

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sithBracer
05.12.2014 , 04:57 PM | #2986
Quote: Originally Posted by Tachenko_Yuri View Post
Some points of general pugs knowledge:

1)most cases of " no reply " in chat usually means " no, and cba to argue over it " , but nvm that.
I never heard of such a rule. Neither I, nor anyone I know follows this rule. If we don't answer someone in a chat it is either: 1. we don't understand what he is asking and waiting for someone who might know to answer 2. we weren't able to read it (usually because of all the other crap that clogs up the chat) 3. we are having problems responding in chat, in which case I would pm instead.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tachenko_Yuri View Post
3)in a 4 man group, if 3 say no bonus then, maths-wise, the bonus gets skipped. ( oh and btw if you stick around in a fp for sometime, you can quit and re-enter straight away without requesting the boot )
Actually, the only votes that matter are the tank and healer, in normal cases, tank vote outweighs healer, in this case, with the tank being late and all ...

Quote: Originally Posted by Tachenko_Yuri View Post
4) you don't hold up an entire group for one's needs, specially after pt.2 and 3, trying to impose yourself over the group despite 3 out of 4 of the group saying ( or showing ) that they didn't want to do bonus.
He asked 3 times. If they had a problem with it they should've said something in the beginning instead of wasting his time.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tachenko_Yuri View Post
a little side-note of mine: 69 is now basically redundant gear, all that argument over a piece of it, just wasn't worth doing all that arguing, imo
You get 2 elite comms for just getting the bonus, you don't even have to fight the boss. The only place it might not be worth it is athiss since you have to fight those champs, but even then it doesn't take long.
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thewitchdoctor
05.12.2014 , 07:18 PM | #2987
Quote: Originally Posted by sithBracer View Post
Actually, the only votes that matter are the tank and healer, in normal cases, tank vote outweighs healer, in this case, with the tank being late and all ...
The only point I disagree on.

Tanks and healers are 'rare' for forming PUGs; not the dictators of what the PUG does. They may hold a bit of coercive force due to their rarity, but that is neither proper to do nor does it grant them a right to dictate. Douchey-tank is douchey just as derpy-DPS is derpy.
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grrrly
05.12.2014 , 09:00 PM | #2988
Quote: Originally Posted by tahtienseta View Post
Pretty soon we noticed that there were something really weird with our tank. 1st he wasn't in tanking form and 2nd when we asked him to shield my friend as she was getting aggro all the time he put a SHIELD MARKER on her!!!!
Hahaha, that is priceless!

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venomlash
05.12.2014 , 09:38 PM | #2989
Quote: Originally Posted by tahtienseta View Post
Pretty soon we noticed that there were something really weird with our tank. 1st he wasn't in tanking form and 2nd when we asked him to shield my friend as she was getting aggro all the time he put a SHIELD MARKER on her!!!!
Lolwut.

So I took my Powertech into a 55HM as a tank for the first time tonight. Got Czerka Corporate Labs, with a well-geared Op healer, a decently-geared Advanced Prototype PT, and a somewhat undergeared Lethality Sniper. We had one wipe on the Infiltrator Droid where he enraged at 26% health left and we managed to get him down to 2% before he killed us all. The second try, he only enraged at 10%, so we were able to down him, although only one of the DPS survived the whole thing.
Impressively, we had no further deaths and finished the run like a quartet of bawsses.
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slafko
05.13.2014 , 01:15 AM | #2990
Quote: Originally Posted by Tachenko_Yuri View Post
You do realize that this you are "the drama and crazy people" for this one story, right?
Ignoring a 3v1 vote for not doing bonus, and pulling stuff before tank just because of said bonus that no1 wanted to do apart from yourself, makes you one of " the weird people you meet in the gf " gratz
You do realise you've completely and utterly missed the point and have no idea what you're talking about, right?

I have spent 20 minutes politely waiting for a reply. When they finally answered me and the answer wasn't along the lines of my wishes I asked to get votekicked. Not to hold them hostage or twist their arms into bending to my will, but to spare myself from a 15-minute lockout wich would result in 35 minutes of wasted time. Since I haven't done anything wrong, I felt that the punishment of a lockout was not deserved. That's the reason I asked for a votekick.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tachenko_Yuri View Post
a little side-note of mine: 69 is now basically redundant gear, all that argument over a piece of it, just wasn't worth doing all that arguing, imo
You do realise that this is just another proof of how you have no idea what you're talking about, right?

Pro tip: It's not about the gear or two additional elite comms. It's about the achievement. hf
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