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BigBreakfast
04.02.2014 , 11:12 PM | #2511
Cademimu SM, on my Sorc Healer

I have no words for this.

The run starts off fine. Great actually, better than most groups I've been getting lately. DPS seems to know their priority, and we cruise along.

We take the long part at the shortcut, and one dps levels. We'll call her DPS. DPS pulls out a hutt statue to buy new skills. Then, the other dps opens their mouth. We'll call him CRAZY.
CRAZY: Why are you such a showoff. It's like you the only one with rise of hutt cartel
DPS: Uhh. I leveled? I brought out my hutt thingie to get skills, but I don't see how that's showing off.
CRAZY: nvm
DPS ends up thinking CRAZY is joking and we move on.

We finish off the groups before Xander.
CRAZY: no. don't come and get my kill at the end like you help.
CRAZY: don't do it.. see how annoying it is?
DPS jokes about how she's a good clean up crew.

Taxi ride to next area. Immediately after we finish the first large group, CRAZY initiates a votekick against DPS.
The 3 of us: "What?? why the vote?"
CRAZY: no dont do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anymore"
DPS gets fed up and says, "Fine. I'm out".
So DPS leaves, and then CRAZY leaves right after!!

I was stunned speechless. I whispered DPS and apologized for the situation.

Shortly after, 2 dps join. Then 1 leaves right away, but is soon replaced. So we make it to the Wookie and fight him.

We kill him, and immediately after the fight, the tank leaves!!

We fight one group with Khem before a Tank joins, and we move on. (And I check his achievements: over 19,000, the highest I've ever seen)

So.. I finish the flashpoint with an entirely new group.

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Halinalle
04.03.2014 , 12:37 AM | #2512
Quote: Originally Posted by AdirahBerkovich View Post
The weird thing is that neither of them realized just how undergeared they were... Makes me wonder how some people clear content.
For level 50 HMs you don't need better gear than what drops in the FP. Gear requirement for level 50 HMs didn't change after Makeb was added and level cap raised.
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fire-breath
04.03.2014 , 02:42 AM | #2513
Quote: Originally Posted by AdirahBerkovich View Post
Queue up to take care of a flashpoint weekly; HM LI pops. Joy.

Ohhhh, what is it with undergeared tanks and picking HM 50s to run?
Admittedly, I wouldn't be so frustrated if our tank was a fresh 50, but she was a full 55, had experience with Makeb judging by an offhanded reference to isotope droids-- but get this; she was in greens and blues from 45 - 50. The Merc healer wasn't much better, although he actually had his full set bonus and was level 50.
Our 'Sin dpser and I ended up taking turns literally tearing aggro off the tank without any meaning, and threat drop did very little to help, even using it right after her taunt. As soon as the taunt wore off, the madness sorc or the madness sin would be tanking again.
And lemme tell you-- when the healer doesn't spam their basic attack-heals as mercs are capable of (and I've run with amazing merc healers), the fights get real nasty, really quickly.

So, we wipe at least once per boss, and we don't have enough dps or heals to make it through the final boss. The tank and the healer ditch after we mention that we're having difficulties with them, and the sin doesn't requeue, figuring we can two man it. We wipe again, HK dying instantly to the aoe dots, the sin soon after, and Treek with him. He then leaves, and I call it quits rather than trying to queue up again.
A good 50k+ in repairs just isn't worth it.

The weird thing is that neither of them realized just how undergeared they were... Makes me wonder how some people clear content.
Even more funnier is that being lv55 in 50 greens and blues is actually overgeared for any lv50 HM. Lv 50 HM flashpoints used to drop tionese crystals and tionese commendations with the endboss dropping columi. This means he was barely undergeared for it. If you take into account the 5 extra levels I would argue he was overgeared for it. Don't confuse low gear with 'not enough' gear ;-)
Take in mind that LI HM got nerved into oblivion so its in line with the other lv50 fps. The only reason why its killing pugs are the mechanics. No gear in the world can fix that one.

In the story I shared the 2nd tank was lv54 with blues and greens. During bossfights I had 0 issues healing him. He also didn't died on trash anymore after I got used to him being a bit more spiky than the normally way overgeared tanks I heal.

Since your tank lost aggro like crazy I rather think there's something wrong with his rotation. I have tanked EV HM on my 48 assassintank against 72 geared dps'ers. I had close to 100% aggrotime on bosses. Just tauntfluff like crazy and he should have been fine.
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fire-breath
04.03.2014 , 02:50 AM | #2514
Quote: Originally Posted by midianlord View Post
Lost Island [HARD].

It only occurs to me now, that:

Before I hit the /ignore for the idiot Sent-tard who kept pulling before the tank, immediately breaking every single CC we all cast as soon as cast, and then went off to try --and fail-- to solo the next pack whilst we --courtesy of a 13k HP tank in quest-greens (yes, really)-- were busy getting murdered...

...

Yeah, before hitting /ignore, I really should have asked this *********** useless waste of perfectly good oxygen, flesh, and bandwidth what it's like to be, to actually exist in RL as, the living embodiment of every negative cliché/stereotype in existence about his retarded *********** stupid worthless n00b-tube-of-MMOs class?

I'm genuinely curious, but oh well --I'll just have to keep wondering I guess, because I'm certainly not un-ignoring this moron who'd cost me almost 8k creds by the time we (barely) got to the first bonus-stage clickckable.

Why are there so, so many indescribable bads in this game?

How the bloody **** do most of these idiots, idiots, idiots, idiots, IDIOTS even make it to level-cap?

Seriously, it just beggars words
Have you considered it might be a 13 year old kid? Maybe even on daddy's account?
Feel free to ignore them but take this into consideration.
Btw .... you're way way way out of line with the "useless waste of perfectly good oxygen, flesh, and bandwidth what it's like to be, to actually exist in RL as," mention. Nobody ... and I repeat NOBODY is a waste of oxygen. People who believed stuff like that are the 'lesser than nice' people in our history. I'm not going to say who I mean by that but I think you got the message. Thank you.
Progression raiding toons on the big RED
Macewindy - Sab Slinger since patch 1.2 through ups and downs

PugsloveHP - the 96k HP commando DPS/healer

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Fidelicatessen
04.03.2014 , 04:01 AM | #2515
Quote: Originally Posted by fire-breath View Post
Have you considered it might be a 13 year old kid? Maybe even on daddy's account?
Feel free to ignore them but take this into consideration.
Btw .... you're way way way out of line with the "useless waste of perfectly good oxygen, flesh, and bandwidth what it's like to be, to actually exist in RL as," mention. Nobody ... and I repeat NOBODY is a waste of oxygen. People who believed stuff like that are the 'lesser than nice' people in our history. I'm not going to say who I mean by that but I think you got the message. Thank you.
I agree with you that midianlord went over the top in his post. I get frustrated with bads, too, but I don't wish disintegration on them (ok, well, maybe their toons, but not their corpus). I think that's a bit harsh. It's just a game, mang.

HOWEVER, I disagree that nobody is a waste of oxygen. Mussolini? Stalin? Franco? That German guy I won't mention? Papa Doc/Baby Doc Duvalier? The list does go on...

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oturak
04.03.2014 , 04:40 AM | #2516
Finished levelling my 2nd scoundrel (scrapper) , running mostly KDY.

It was a painful experience, don't think I'd do it again (or probably will only for stealth classes).

Had a couple of frustrating issues (map with the 4 room and objectives, if you do it counter clockwise you'll lose the least amount of time, still people will run clockwise, or people going afk during the long intro, or people getting killed from knockbacks from droids), but a few things made me really crazy.

1 - Jail map, or trollmap

Thanks consular, commando, jedi or slinger for knockbacking and aggroing half of the fu* map. Of course, you didn't answer (or sometimes said "OK") when I asked politely not to use knockbacks. And of course seeing what you did, you will use the "headless chicken" strategy, jump to the bottom of the map and aggro all the packs you missed before + the miniboss.

Then, after dying : "what happened ?".

Seems that there's probably a guide for shadows and jedis somewhere stating : "Knockback is the core of your rotation. Use it on CD."

2 - Sentards.

Seriously. I hate lowbies sentinels now. I don't understand. I run raids with very good sentinels, but there seems to be something with low level sentinels that impedes how your brain should be working. Double aggro, breaking CC's, jumping from pack to pack without self healing, trying to solo the boss while you're explaining the strategy, name something dumb, I've experienced it.

Worst part was than even when I was paired with good sentinels, they'd suddenly turn crazy somehow in front of the final boss (solo jump it, tunnel vision and not taking care of adds, standing in the aoes and trying to facetank).

I ended up removing myself from the queue whenever there was more than 1 sentinel in my group.

3 - Ramboes.

Simple but efficient strategy I guess : never heal yourself, never wait for your party, never walk the same path they use. They run forward, aggro all they see, die, respawn and aggro another pack while you're dealing with their mess. And message me "man you're a scoundrel, offheal me" then try to votekick.


Sorry for the wall of text, I feel better now that's it out

Edit - Mixed up pushback and knockback

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DarthCasus
04.03.2014 , 04:51 AM | #2517
Read every single post of this lovely thread and always had stories but never knew where to start, today is that day.

Just got dropped in a lowbie Colicoid Wargames with my 42 Shadow only to be greeted with the following:

Tank: LOL IM WAY TOO OVERGEARED
DPS: LOL Want to?
Healer: Not again..
Tank: LULULUL OBLITERATE!

Voted to be kicked, reason? "Is a lame"

I was too tired to even realize what the hell just had happened so I queue up again. Got a Kuat. Yay.. At this point I just wanted the little 2 bars left to reach lvl 43 so off I go. Again, dropped half way through and I ask what happened to the last person. One of the 3 tanks say "She wasn't healing". So I didn't bother to reply and just jumped to show I'm ready, we go on and we get the Assembly scenario. I say I know the puzzle and one tank says "k, you do it". We clear both rooms and collect the access pads, but as I put in the right pieces, I see a character following me as I do so, so I look back and see the same tank that said I should do it, changing the order. I started typing that I got it and then assembly starts... Of course it was wrong but I just said "What do ya know, cat's on fire again. /salute" and quit.

At that point I was ready to go to sleep but then I saw I was missing barely 2k xp so I decided to give it another go. I get kuat again at the beginning with the Holy trinity. The tank was nice healer made sure to throw heald if needed and other dps.. It had to be someone, right? We started the prisoner scenario and I asked if I could free the all after we clear the rooms so I could get that final achievement. The healer and tank happily complied but not a word from our daring scoundrel. Anytime I sin for this achievement, it's the quiet one. We clear 1 room and run to the other but then I notice 1 less purple person on my mini map and my heart dropped. Then came the notification "1/10 prisoners free" and guess who wasnt standing by our side?
Spoiler
DUN DUN DUN *Lightning*

He claimed he rp's as a traitor since his original squad betrayed him and yada yada. I just replied "But... my cheevie..." and stayed quiet the rest of the run. M. Night Shamalan wouldn't have seen that shock coming I tell ya. Atleast I got my 43
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Lain-QT
04.03.2014 , 05:28 AM | #2518
Quote: Originally Posted by Fidelicatessen View Post
...That German guy I won't mention...
He was Austrian, mind you.
"You should be as alive as you can until you are totally dead!"
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Halinalle
04.03.2014 , 05:40 AM | #2519
Quote: Originally Posted by oturak View Post
Had a couple of frustrating issues (map with the 4 room and objectives, if you do it counter clockwise you'll lose the least amount of time, still people will run clockwise, or people going afk during the long intro, or people getting killed from pushbacks from droids), but a few things made me really crazy.
I usually stop at the door if they start going the wrong way (clockwise). They usually get the hint and return to previous room and we start going counter-clockwise before we waste too much time. But it doesn't happen always.

Quote: Originally Posted by oturak View Post
Thanks consular, commando, jedi or slinger for pushbacking and aggroing half of the fu* map. Of course, you didn't answer (or sometimes said "OK") when I asked politely not to use pushbacks. And of course seeing what you did, you will use the "headless chicken" strategy, jump to the bottom of the map and aggro all the packs you missed before + the miniboss.
They use knockbacks, not pushbacks. Pushback is that freaking annoying thing to experience when you are casting something that requires a lot of time, like for example a powerful heal as Sage and you get shot at and you never seem to get that bar full because of pushbacks. No problem, happy to help with terms!

If this happens in the future just LoS (Line of Sight) them so that they stop at doorway ("nice group you have there") and I'm sure you guys can figure out what to do at this point. It's easy when you know what to do.
EV 8SM 5/5, KP 8SM 5/5, EC 8SM 4/4, TfB 16SM 0/5, SnV 8SM 7/7
DF 8SM 5/5, DP 16SM 0/5, Rav 16SM 0/5, ToS 16SM 0/5

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oturak
04.03.2014 , 06:00 AM | #2520
Thanks for the correction, I'm not a native english speaker so I mix sometimes words up.

Tried to stop. Most of the times they just continue anyway, or once i was votekicked because "not cooperating". I'm not trying anymore.

As for the packs, it's not like as a scrapper you have strong AOE's (flyby is quite weak now, and the grenade is not that strong either). Sometimes we survived with some smart CC's on the droids + burning the adds, but most of the time stealth saved me.

I think the only time I wasn't bothered with the mass aggro was when i was once paired with 3 commandos, 1 dumb one with no notion of spatial awareness (he'd aggro like crazy and just go "I didn't see them" and two good ones.