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cxten
02.24.2014 , 08:54 PM | #2151
Quote: Originally Posted by Xakthul View Post
Don't hate too much on marauders.... they do the second highest DPS of the eight ACs (Gunsnipe does more, I think)

You have lots of fail marauders, but when a truly good one shows up he/she is a force to be reckoned with.
I agree with the sentiment definitely. As to the previous post, I don't think they're especially simpler than other classes. They just attract more than their share of immature folk interested in the cool double sabers, so the percentage of those for the class is somewhat higher.

Just to correct the factual statement, for dummy dps, currently the leaderboards have (Eng Sniper) > Merc > Op > Mara > Jugg > Sniper > Sorc > PT > Assassin. This has been in flux, though, and will change again come 2.7 presumably.

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Galsarus
02.24.2014 , 09:46 PM | #2152
Just attempted to run a HMFP to finish off my weekly, and got Athiss. Team composition - Me as DPS (72s with 2pc set bonus), healer (mix of 58s and 61s), an rDPS (mix of 66s and 69s)...and a PT Tank, who's gear...well....yeah....

Jump down the well, go to pick up the explosives. Tank jumps in, I jump in after him and immediately grab aggro. After we mop up and grab the explosives, we run to the door, get to the first lot of adds before door and this time - tank loses aggro to the other DPS. We clear and move to second mob and I take aggro off the tank. once the fight is over, tank initiates a vote kick to kick me out of group. Reason - taunting off Tank. vote failed, but I decide to leave anyway.

As I am getting ready to leave, I see this in group chat and stop -

Healer - "Dude You do realise maras dont get a taunt yes?".

Tank - "YOU MORON DISRUPTION IS A MARA TAUNT! HE'S EVEN IN FKING TANK STANCE!!!"

Healer - "Disruption is interrupt, not taunt and he's in juyo stance."

Tank - "I PLAY A MARA *******! I USE DISRUPTION TO TAUNT BOSS OFF TROUBLE TANK IN NIM DP farming"

If someone told me this story I'd laugh in their face and call BS, I seriously wish I took a screen grab to share with the good folks on this forum as we'd be in the presence of a tank who, on his dps alt, has already cleared NiM DP before it has been released.

Needless to say - we all ported out without another word.

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Lowfrequenzy
02.25.2014 , 02:13 AM | #2153
Quote: Originally Posted by Galsarus View Post
Healer - "Dude You do realise maras dont get a taunt yes?".

Tank - "YOU MORON DISRUPTION IS A MARA TAUNT! HE'S EVEN IN FKING TANK STANCE!!!"
Tank stance? Really? I mean, yes, they steal aggro like nothing, but tank stance?
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Prototypemind
02.25.2014 , 02:20 AM | #2154
Quote: Originally Posted by Galsarus View Post
Just attempted to run a HMFP to finish off my weekly, and got Athiss. Team composition - Me as DPS (72s with 2pc set bonus), healer (mix of 58s and 61s), an rDPS (mix of 66s and 69s)...and a PT Tank, who's gear...well....yeah....

Jump down the well, go to pick up the explosives. Tank jumps in, I jump in after him and immediately grab aggro. After we mop up and grab the explosives, we run to the door, get to the first lot of adds before door and this time - tank loses aggro to the other DPS. We clear and move to second mob and I take aggro off the tank. once the fight is over, tank initiates a vote kick to kick me out of group. Reason - taunting off Tank. vote failed, but I decide to leave anyway.

As I am getting ready to leave, I see this in group chat and stop -

Healer - "Dude You do realise maras dont get a taunt yes?".

Tank - "YOU MORON DISRUPTION IS A MARA TAUNT! HE'S EVEN IN FKING TANK STANCE!!!"

Healer - "Disruption is interrupt, not taunt and he's in juyo stance."

Tank - "I PLAY A MARA *******! I USE DISRUPTION TO TAUNT BOSS OFF TROUBLE TANK IN NIM DP farming"

If someone told me this story I'd laugh in their face and call BS, I seriously wish I took a screen grab to share with the good folks on this forum as we'd be in the presence of a tank who, on his dps alt, has already cleared NiM DP before it has been released.

Needless to say - we all ported out without another word.
Dude, how are you gonna argue with a guy from the future? Clearly he's already played 2.8, seen the new NiMs, and see the changes that let Maras taunt.

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Icarus-Iso
02.25.2014 , 02:32 AM | #2155
So the new tactical FP KDY is proving to bring out all the crazies, at least for me.

Decided to level my heals!Sorc and a guildy's tank!Powertech, and since they're at the Boarding Party and Foundry stages, we said 'errr no' and queued for KDY. Nice quick pop with with I believe a Merc and a Marauder.

Notice pretty quick the Marauder's health always seems low... and he has a nasty habit of breaking CCed targets *sigh*.

Takes me a while but then I notice he's not healing between fights. Not a single Hit Point. I asked him to heal up, and get "that's not my job, you're the healer".

Excuse me? Between fights, no it ain't, especially on a Sorc. Needless to say, he had no more heals for his short remaining time in the group.
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Halinalle
02.25.2014 , 04:43 AM | #2156
Quote: Originally Posted by Icarus-Iso View Post
So the new tactical FP KDY is proving to bring out all the crazies, at least for me.

Decided to level my heals!Sorc and a guildy's tank!Powertech, and since they're at the Boarding Party and Foundry stages, we said 'errr no' and queued for KDY. Nice quick pop with with I believe a Merc and a Marauder.

Notice pretty quick the Marauder's health always seems low... and he has a nasty habit of breaking CCed targets *sigh*.

Takes me a while but then I notice he's not healing between fights. Not a single Hit Point. I asked him to heal up, and get "that's not my job, you're the healer".

Excuse me? Between fights, no it ain't, especially on a Sorc. Needless to say, he had no more heals for his short remaining time in the group.
For some reason some people expect heals even from DPS Ops/Sorcs in KDY. It's a bit annoying to heal with non-Medicine spec'd Op when all you have is the first heal you get and can't proc Tactical Advantage with it (even when you proc it, it's better used for something else than HoT).

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morfius
02.25.2014 , 04:59 AM | #2157
Quote: Originally Posted by mastirkal View Post
1. Using a taunt in your rotation makes you a good tank, it would be the same thing if a marksman sniper never used follow through. Sure you could do it, but you're ****.

2. DPS should always push out as much dps as they can. Tanks should push out as much threat as they can. DPS should agro drop, tanks should taunt. What's there not to understand here? Even with a difference in gear level, half of being a good player is being situationally aware.



I take it as a sign of accomplishment. I run my occasional DP/DF 16 SMs and Flashpoints for fun. I ignore dps and healers asking for guard and usually say nothing when I dps. It's up to the tanks to decide if they'll put a guard on someone, not some dps or healer.
Ouch you actually believe that?
After your big opener you will have hard time to take agro from me on similar gear without taunting (except some weird composition that go for crit/surge/alacrity/power setup and are mostly annoying under DPS but can make a spike that require another taunt) on cool down or big luck on default composition (my 72/78 Commando with power/surge/crit setup was able to hit almost 50K in single rotation - you know how short commando rotation is I suppose) - where it is supposed to be taunted, if tank was using taunt on CD and I was using drop on CD - boss would be mine for life.
Tried in some HMs (up to DF) too...
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CheaterLL
02.25.2014 , 08:03 AM | #2158
Quote: Originally Posted by Galsarus View Post

Healer - "Dude You do realise maras dont get a taunt yes?".

Tank - "YOU MORON DISRUPTION IS A MARA TAUNT! HE'S EVEN IN FKING TANK STANCE!!!"

Healer - "Disruption is interrupt, not taunt and he's in juyo stance."

Tank - "I PLAY A MARA *******! I USE DISRUPTION TO TAUNT BOSS OFF TROUBLE TANK IN NIM DP farming"

If someone told me this story I'd laugh in their face and call BS, I seriously wish I took a screen grab to share with the good folks on this forum as we'd be in the presence of a tank who, on his dps alt, has already cleared NiM DP before it has been released.

Needless to say - we all ported out without another word.
Well, let's say... if maras HAD a taunt and if it WERE past 2.8...
He would be dead just seconds after taunting boss
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venomlash
02.25.2014 , 12:23 PM | #2159
A bit of a feel-good story this time...

I was on my Shadow yesterday, got a random 55 HM pop, ended up tanking as usual. We got Athiss Hammer Station, correction, and it was me (36k health), a Combat Sentinel (31k health), a Scrapper Scoundrel (33k health), and a Sage healer (23k health). We faceroll the first few groups and make it to the first boss.

I check that everyone knows the fights, drop my Phase Walk on the undergeared but enthusiastic healer, and head in. I eat the boss's first Mining Beam channel with Resilience, as always, but the second one gets up to a full 8 stacks on me, and I'm down to 2% when I pop Battle Readiness. I'm calling out for cleanses, the Scrapper is doing his best to help with that over the next few channels, and we down the boss without further trouble.
After the fight, I tell the healer that the debuff needs to be cleansed at 4 or 5 stacks. He says "yeah...I figured that out halfway through". He learned, though, so all's well that ends well. I was rather impressed, actually, that such an undergeared healer was able to keep everyone alive.
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DataBeaver
02.25.2014 , 02:18 PM | #2160
Quote: Originally Posted by venomlash View Post
We got Athiss

boss's first Mining Beam channel
That boss is in Hammer Station, not Athiss.