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nyrkverse
01.10.2014 , 08:51 AM | #1711
How about a tank that says "I'm not good enough" and leaves *in the middle of a boss fight*? Happened to me in Cademimu HM, with the droid and Officer Xander. Luckily the healer knew her stuff and kept me (inexperienced sentinel) and gunslinger on our feet while we finished the droid and then killed Xander. Tank comes back, nobody says anything and we proceed as nothing happened. Then while simply moving toward the next fight I managed to fall off one of those platforms, all by myself :P

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Prototypemind
01.10.2014 , 09:01 AM | #1712
Quote: Originally Posted by Ancaglon View Post
Combat Technique/Dark Charge requires the use of a DBLS or Electrostaff. While you could go to Combat Technique with a DBLS, then swap to a single-bladed saber, then you still can't use Force Breach/Discharge or Whirling Blow/Lacerate so you will be relying solely on Slow Time/Wither for aggro on anything except your primary target. While this may be fine if you have a group of friends that can compensate for the limitations, inflicting that sort of gimping on a group finder group should be grounds for a vote kick.
There's also the fact that some of those techniques that reduce the cooldowns to reproc Harnessed Darkness required a double-bladed saber as well. Showing up as a Sin with a single saber will get you the boot, same as if a Mara shows up with a single blade. Luckily I've never had either of these occur, as half the reason those classes get rolled is just for the sabers =p

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Frakkensteinse
01.10.2014 , 09:49 AM | #1713
Once i was that wierdo.
Qued up for random HM FP as the sorc healer I am. Got in with a Merc dps, a sniper dps and a tank that i think was a Powertech, but I cant remember exactly.
From the beggining I mixed up the icons for class (that is at the portrait) and thought dps merc was tank and vice versa. Dunno why. Maybe because it was a FP i hadnt done in a while and was stressed or something. Anyway i kept healing the dps and wondered why the hell he didnt run first and pull and aggro things. So I started chatting about it. The others where "huh?" But i was so strangely certain of what I said so i kept on trying to get the dps merc to tank and the tank to stay out of trouble since i had to rez him.
They were like "w.t.f? Are u stoopid" but i kept chatting away and then i looked at the icons and.... Ooooooooh....

I left the FP out of shame. Probably got ignored by them all...
Take a pick: arguing by ignorance or arguing by confirming the arguments you find meaningless.

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AbsolutGrndZero
01.10.2014 , 01:13 PM | #1714
So, slightly Off and slightly on topic, since the majority of complaints from me will be DPS that that pull...

Those if you that tank will love this video by SilverLetomi. She's a WoW player, but the song applies to all MMOs that have the "holy trinity" of Tank, DPS, Healer..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7873rVbako
The Babylon Legacy
Harbinger
Racquel, Stancerry, Jennica, Porcelain

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toha
01.10.2014 , 01:33 PM | #1715
Quote: Originally Posted by AbsolutGrndZero View Post
So, slightly Off and slightly on topic, since the majority of complaints from me will be DPS that that pull...

Those if you that tank will love this video by SilverLetomi. She's a WoW player, but the song applies to all MMOs that have the "holy trinity" of Tank, DPS, Healer..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7873rVbako

ROFL watching this in a public place and trying not to look like a crazy person didn't work

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midianlord
01.10.2014 , 01:55 PM | #1716
Quote: Originally Posted by Frakkensteinse View Post
Once i was that wierdo.
Qued up for random HM FP as the sorc healer I am. Got in with a Merc dps, a sniper dps and a tank that i think was a Powertech, but I cant remember exactly.
From the beggining I mixed up the icons for class (that is at the portrait) and thought dps merc was tank and vice versa. Dunno why. Maybe because it was a FP i hadnt done in a while and was stressed or something. Anyway i kept healing the dps and wondered why the hell he didnt run first and pull and aggro things. So I started chatting about it. The others where "huh?" But i was so strangely certain of what I said so i kept on trying to get the dps merc to tank and the tank to stay out of trouble since i had to rez him.
They were like "w.t.f? Are u stoopid" but i kept chatting away and then i looked at the icons and.... Ooooooooh....

I left the FP out of shame. Probably got ignored by them all...
Damager-Mercs can actually tank amazingly well.

For about 10 seconds.
Guys/Gals, could you please start queuing for real Flashpoints again?

r/DPS 4 life

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midianlord
01.10.2014 , 10:30 PM | #1717
/Sigh...

If someone who clearly knows the fight tells you to be extra-careful of AoE during the Matrix Varad fight in Mandalorian Raiders [HARD] when focussing down the turrets at the four corners, then...it's probably a good idea to bloody well listen to 'em?

Whilst it is possible to AoE during that phase --just move the reticle onto your primary but well away from Varad--tagging the boss too often in that part of the fight --and it doesn't take much-- will enrage the turrets, and then they'll just alpha everyone, every time, guaranteed.

What is definitely not a good idea is to keep spamming Lightning Storm, with the boss right in it, leading into wipe, after wipe, after wipe!

No, PuG-tank, we weren't wiping because "are DPS is a bit lite." (<--- Can someone explain to me just how a simple present-tense verb and the un-related subject noun of a sentence are supposed to go together like that?)

Mostly 72s + a couple remaining 69s, almost all Power/Surge --I know, I need more Accuracy-- with 25+ per cent Crit-chance and 31k HP are more than enough for that instance.

15k-creds repair-bill later, I got a Czerka Corporate Labs [HARD], that went smooth as silk...well, for me, the other DPS --Assassin-- kept getting urp'ed, so I guess it must have sucked to be that poor sod on that run

E:

Got my 72 gloves on my PyroMerc after that! Just need pants, then start augmenting and optimising mods (a process I don't relish, by the way --that ****'s expensive, even if you can craft your own augments ) and he will be good to freakin' go!
Guys/Gals, could you please start queuing for real Flashpoints again?

r/DPS 4 life

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FarkleSparkle
01.10.2014 , 11:06 PM | #1718
I queued one time (level 50 flashpoint). Our tank was a vanguard, and I was suspicious when I saw his level 42-43 gear. After dying a ton, I started watching what the guy was doing. He never taunted once, and kept using his first ability. (Sorry I don't know what it is called it the trooper). I asked him to please start taunting, and he asked what a taunt was. That was the first thing he said, and I already knew that it was going to be rough. I explained the taunting to him and then he started taunting. Even after this, I noticed he was not using his speed boost thin in the tank tree. (Don't know what that is called either). I asked him what tree he was in and he was clueless. Yet again, I explained something to him and that's wen he decided to say that he was in all of the trees 0_o. So we had a tank who at the start- 1: didn't know how to taunt 2: had extremely bad gear for his level 3: wasn't in the tank tree. We did struggle through the FP though . At the end he gave me some black hole stuff so we were all good

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Deadlynits
01.10.2014 , 11:52 PM | #1719
Quote: Originally Posted by AbsolutGrndZero View Post
So, slightly Off and slightly on topic, since the majority of complaints from me will be DPS that that pull...

Those if you that tank will love this video by SilverLetomi. She's a WoW player, but the song applies to all MMOs that have the "holy trinity" of Tank, DPS, Healer..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7873rVbako
lol. nice video.

50 HM Lost Island. 27k guardian tank(dps in disguise), 2 sents 34k 26k and me sage 31k.

i thought it should be breeze with this group and went to LI only to find tank in shei form(cant remember spelling one with speed boost)
then i thought oh well. this should still may go fine as we are all over geared and all 55's. oh, was i ever wrong?
asked everyone knows this fp? both dps dont know and they want it for vehicle. they both said team always abandoned at droid fight or before it. i decided i'll finish this for their sake then. tank didnt say anything. i explained everything and we almost were fine only tank was losing too much health. but i kept him up on first boss after the bridge. then comes the droid, explained interrupts lava circle adds everything. 3 wipes. tank never taunts or kites it. i am pulling one with rescue to safer end whoever has aggro at that time and healing and avoid and running. it was hell lol. 3rd attempt i survived literraly 2 mins after all 3 died. ya i know sage healer cant tank and dps a boss.

so 4th round all 3 died again. as they were either running into electric. i know they are all 3 mdps. so its harder on them. but if they dont avoid it. i cant heal all damage fast enough. but i revived a dps and we took him down as she used to run better than others i observed. so next fight. where that animal comes out of cage. no one dies here right? nope. tank died with 2 shot.

the fight where you need to get under feet came. explained everything. on we went. guess what? tank was away from feet. and i asked everyone to jump off. cant do it with 3. then second time. asked him again to keep boss in mid. was keeping him at end. then i saw the boss never came in from pole wondered who is not clicking console? tank!! he is standing there and doing nothing. went and clicked console and ya. no heals. i died and we wiped. asked him to hit console. he says " console isnt clickable" while it was fine for all of us and for him a moment ago.

next bonus boss. told them not to run to each other and to taunt him when he finishes throw. nope. tank doesnt taunt at all. oh ya, he didnt guard anyone.and his form was not in tank stance at all anyway. and the boss came to me or other dps always. we wiped 3 times (total wipe 8 already)

popped repair droid. 30k bill. and tried again. and again me and a dps took him down. final boss. explained and showed spots where to go what to do. nope. all stood there doing nothing after boss went and we need to attack chambers. finally asked tank will he change stance or not. he says he is not tank and dont know why he got queued like that. we explain queue options. and i say, sorry guys. cant do without a tank.

tank says "i can respec then" i am like, " if you have field respec, then you are that DPS who thinks " huh 50 HM. i can tank it with dps tree and gear and stance" then i quit and pmed 2 other dps if they get a tank i can come and heal for them.

i have done it as 50 level with all 61's and 10 wipes at 55 where all are 55's is just ridiculous..


E: from first mob to last boss. i had to run ahead first otherwise tank never moved. and tank literally took 2 mins before pulling any mob. no guard, tank stance, taunts, intrerupts/cc
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Paintcheck
01.11.2014 , 03:01 AM | #1720
After Lost Island came out and before they nerfed it repeatedly, 2 guildies and I picked up a random fourth to go do HM LI. The fourth was a mercenary wearing exclusively tanking gear and who only used Rocket Punch, Rapid Shots, and Flamethrower for the entire flashpoint while in Combat Support Cylinder (no, he never threw a heal out). We basically three-manned the FP and got to the final boss when my guildie (who normally was a DPS merc but specced to heal this one) asked in group chat very politely "Hey could you please tell us what your rotation is because we can't figure out what you're doing and this boss is somewhat of a DPS check."
The response back: "Rotation? What does my camera position have to do with fighting the boss?" Needless to say, we three-manned the final fight as well.


A couple months ago I was doing HM Mando Raiders and had a sniper and an operative who were both from the same guild who refused to use orbital strike at all, ever regardless of how many mobs were grouped together. When asked why, they responded with "We don't want to waste the GCD on it."


Before TFB and ROTHC came out, I was one of the tanks in an HM Denova with my guild and we had lost one person at Stormcaller and Firebrand person so we picked up a pug DPS who was geared for it and swore up and down that he'd done Denova before and knew all the fights. Fight starts, I jump up on Stormcaller, everyone's doing their thing properly, Double Destruction happens, I turn the turret to pass it to the DPS and this guy literally runs away from me when he sees the turret coming his way. I get blasted with DD and die, wipe. We explain to the DPS how the fight is supposed to work, he says he understands, has no questions, and has done it before so we start again, thinking maybe he was usually on Firebrand with his guild or something and was unaware of the Double Destruction mechanic.
We jump up on the tanks again, it's all going well, Double Destruction again, I turn the turret and this idiot runs away from me again. I die again, we wipe, and this guy (he was a sorc if I remember correctly) angrily writes in chat "*** tank stop trying to kill me with the turret, you're causing us to wipe!"

On a more ranty note, I could fill a book with stories from PUG operations I've run (almost always on my tank because I am apparently a glutton for punishment) about players who swear up and down they know the fights/mechanics to a given Operation and then proceed to do nothing right for the entire battle. Even worse is when someone does speak up when asked "Does everyone know this fight?", has it explained to them in detail, is asked after the explanation if they have any questions, and they still do it wrong. Or when I explain the fight to someone who doesn't know it and then someone else who didn't speak up goes and fails. What is so hard about admitting you are inexperienced? You're not saving yourself any time by bumbling around causing wipes and forcing restarts.