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Exar Kun vs Darth Vader vs Jaina Solo

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Exar Kun vs Darth Vader vs Jaina Solo

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Slowpokeking
05.01.2013 , 06:34 PM | #21
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Because were assuming that Kun is using his double bladed saber here? Given that was his actual weapon? More to that yes Vader was beaten by Maul using two sabers, however its not like he wouldn't learn from his mistakes and think of a way to overcome it.
No, he use all three type well, and Kun is much stronger than Maul on Force Technique.

Later Vader had no clear advantage over the old Obi Wan before he gave up the fight, and got owned by Luke badly in EP VI, Dooku did a much better job against Anakin when he went rampage.

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Wolfninjajedi
05.01.2013 , 06:38 PM | #22
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No, he use all three type well, and Kun is much stronger than Maul on Force Technique.

Later Vader had no clear advantage over the old Obi Wan before he gave up the fight, and got owned by Luke badly in EP VI, Dooku did a much better job against Anakin when he went rampage.
He was...but for this fight, he is either using his double bladed saber or a single saber. He can't use two here, because his saber isn't designed that way to detached and form 2. Also yes, Vader was going to kill Obi-Wan during their final duel and he knew this, Obi-Wan wasn't going to survive the fight regardless of what happened.

Luke owning him badly in ROTJ?.....Right, no he didn't they were fighting as equals up until Luke tapped into the darkside and used it to overwhelm Vader.
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LadyKulvax
05.01.2013 , 06:51 PM | #23
Honestly I've been thinking he could simply knock Vader into a coma, like he did to Master Skywalker, whom wasn't far off at all from facing Reborn Palpatine.
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darthnamel
05.01.2013 , 07:08 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
Vader
1. got beaten by Maul clone.
2. got beaten by Starkiller.
3. could not take down the old Obi Wan in short time.
4. got beaten by EP VI Luke.

Unless he goes rampage, I don't see a reason of him being stronger than Kun.
Or if he gets serious, and Luke is the strongest Force user by canon. You must remember he was using Dun Moch, against Star Killer and Luke. And it even states, in the novels, that he was being cautious when facing his old master. Maul clone, who died? The clone did. Exar Kun only faced some Jedi Masters whereas Vader killed HUNDREDs of Knights, Padawans, Masters, and even younglings.

Kun couldn't kill list:
1. Ulic
2. Alema Keeto
3.Luke
4. Ikrit, was a Jedi on Yavin for MANY years.

Vader Couldn't kill list:
1. Obi-Wan
2. Yoda (maybe)
3.Luke
4. An OP Clone/Starkiller

Now seeing as according to canon the Jedi was at their peak in the years leading up to the Clone Wars. So Masters of Kun's era were not as exactly as strong as those fighting in the Clone wars.

I would put Vader's kill list but too long. Kun imo, was nothing but a guy amplified by an amulet, whereas Vader was a warrior plain and simple. While Kun is a nothing but a placeholder till The Empire re-emerged.

Cuis clones of a dark Jedi and a Hand of Palpatine lost to Vader and a small squad of non-force sensitives. Remember the FU books tend to be more realistic, than the games.

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Slowpokeking
05.01.2013 , 07:27 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
He was...but for this fight, he is either using his double bladed saber or a single saber. He can't use two here, because his saber isn't designed that way to detached and form 2. Also yes, Vader was going to kill Obi-Wan during their final duel and he knew this, Obi-Wan wasn't going to survive the fight regardless of what happened.

Luke owning him badly in ROTJ?.....Right, no he didn't they were fighting as equals up until Luke tapped into the darkside and used it to overwhelm Vader.
He can, he didn't throw his other lightsabers away.

Obi Wan showed no disadvantage before he gave up the fight, he would surely lose because there were Stormtroopers with him.

Anakin did the same thing in EP III but Dooku used a simply taunt to bring him back, it was Sidious who helped Anakin.

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Slowpokeking
05.01.2013 , 07:29 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by darthnamel View Post
Or if he gets serious, and Luke is the strongest Force user by canon. You must remember he was using Dun Moch, against Star Killer and Luke. And it even states, in the novels, that he was being cautious when facing his old master. Maul clone, who died? The clone did. Exar Kun only faced some Jedi Masters whereas Vader killed HUNDREDs of Knights, Padawans, Masters, and even younglings.

Kun couldn't kill list:
1. Ulic
2. Alema Keeto
3.Luke
4. Ikrit, was a Jedi on Yavin for MANY years.
Dooku was able to use Dun Moch to bring Anakin back from rampage, why couldn't Vader do so?

The clone got killed because Vader caught him with surprise, before that Vader was already beaten.

Kun only fought Ulic with one lightsaber, and he one shot Aleema, if Ulic was not here he would have killed her easily.

Even Luke require others' help to go against Kun.

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ZahirS
05.01.2013 , 07:32 PM | #27
Jaina would probably win, because she faced more powerful threats than Exar Kun maybe Vader if you consider Caedus more powerful than Vader.

Depends in which timeline they are facing eath other it its their prime, then Jaina has it for the win

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Slowpokeking
05.01.2013 , 07:33 PM | #28
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Jaina would probably win, because she faced more powerful threats than Exar Kun maybe Vader if you consider Caedus more powerful than Vader.

Depends in which timeline they are facing eath other it its their prime, then Jaina has it for the win
It took Luke, his padawan and the spirit of Master Baas to totally defeat Kun.

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ZahirS
05.01.2013 , 07:40 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
It took Luke, his padawan and the spirit of Master Baas to totally defeat Kun.
Luke at the begning of the the New jedi Order, Jaina is part of the new jedi order padawans which are even more skilled than Yoda or other jedi.

Exar Kun might give problems to Vader but doubt has power to overwhelm Jaina

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Slowpokeking
05.01.2013 , 07:42 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by ZahirS View Post
Luke at the begning of the the New jedi Order, Jaina is part of the new jedi order padawans which are even more skilled than Yoda or other jedi.

Exar Kun might give problems to Vader but doubt has power to overwhelm Jaina
There is no proof showed Jaina being more powerful than Luke in JA trilogy. There is also no feats of Jaina being stronger than either Kun or JA Luke.