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No dam. upgrade from partisan to conqueror weapon.

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No dam. upgrade from partisan to conqueror weapon.

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Coltraine
04.29.2013 , 03:03 PM | #1
Hello, earlier today I was really excited about upgrading from a partisan main hand to a conqueror one on my sentinel. I peeled out the hilt and mods and placed them in my favorite lightsaber. Now I know there's a lot of things going on with the bolster at this moment relating to pve gear, but hey a simple upgrade from one PVP weapon to another, that should work, right?

Wrong. I didn't really pay attention at first but it seemed like my damage hadn't gone up inside warzones, so I did an experiment and bought a fresh unmodified partisan weaponmaster lightsaber, the same type I now have in conqueror quality. I went into a wz and noticed 2 things:

1. My dam range hadn't gone up like it should by 35 damage, in fact my damage only went up by 1 point and that's due to the extra 9 strength on the conqueror.

2. My offhand is still a partisan and it actually lost 18-22 damage on that one. It's like the game is thinking I have a conqueror offhand and the bolster needs to be removed.

TL;DR partisan is getting bolstered where it shouldn't and that makes conqueror weapons useless. (the same is probably true for the conqueror armorings since I've noticed I gain a fair bit of armor inside wz's versus outside.

Here are 2 screenshots, and you will have to excuse me for being such a noob at posting these. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...042921375.jpg/

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Moogleking
04.29.2013 , 03:21 PM | #2
This is the ultimate problem with the bolster system as is.

It is impossible for you to simply look at to items and tell which is better without having them both inside a warzone and swapping them in and out.

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K_osss
04.29.2013 , 03:36 PM | #3
Why am I not surprised by this? I haven't bought a Conqueror's weapon yet. Guess I should be glad I'm not missing anything. But I wish Bioware would fix this stuff. If bolster is to blame I'm slowly getting to the point where I think they just need to remove it since it's been 2 weeks and it's still pretty broke. That's not counting the 4 or so weeks of PTS and all the feedback they got on the issues with bolster then. I can't imagine it's not an issue with bolster and something else is causing that problem either.

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Kehtal
04.29.2013 , 03:47 PM | #4
Only one screenshot.
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Coltraine
04.29.2013 , 03:51 PM | #5
There are 2 screenshots. The small one in the bottom is the other screenshot. You can also click the first screenshot to zoom in and click the white arrow in the top middle to get to the next one.

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Kehtal
04.29.2013 , 03:57 PM | #6
Bolster probably pushes us beyond Partisan gear levels, thus making the upgrade from Partisan to Conqueror even less perceptible than it would be under pre-2.0 conditions.

The price we're paying for "equality" is any sort of sense of achievement (or simply character advancement, to suit my fellow gear-isn't-hard-to-get advocates) for getting new gear.


I think it's going to have kind of an ironic (and detrimental) effect on the community.
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Coltraine
04.29.2013 , 04:06 PM | #7
It's not working as intended though, items were supposed to be bolstered just below partisan quality, and the pvp items themselves getting bolstered is surely not what was meant.

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Sidrath
04.29.2013 , 05:36 PM | #8
To my knowledge, the Bolster system automatically scales up ANY weapon/offhand you use to 1006 Force/Tech Power, which is the amount on Underworld weapons/offhands. I'm also told it bolsters the Weapon Damage ranges to Underworld levels. That being the case, any Partisan->Conqueror upgrade results in a fairly small boost in primary stat, endurance and secondary stats. You're not getting the massive weapon damage and Force/Tech boosts that you'd have seen from, say, replacing WH with EWH.

In other words, PvP weapons are indeed just stat sticks at the moment - they're not a top priority when upgrading, in light of their price.
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Morpurgo
04.29.2013 , 05:50 PM | #9
Sounds about right. I switched from WH to Conqueror main-hand on my Guardian and there is basicly no difference in damage.
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K_osss
07.02.2013 , 07:53 AM | #10
Sorry to necro an oldish thread.

I assume that after the most recent bolster modifications this is still the case? If warzone bolster scales everything up to item level 72 weapon damage then the conqueror weapon would essentially be a stat stick (since I already have partisan). I'd like some input before I spend 3475 ranked coms for +10 main stat or whatever the upgrade from partisan > conqueror is, I could buy a couple of other pieces and get more stats if the MH doesn't appreciably increase weapon damage.

Outside of warzones I'm sure it's better but I'm looking for more in warzone damage atm. Thanks for your input!