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I want bolster for Flashpoints, Operations, and Heroic Missions

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I want bolster for Flashpoints, Operations, and Heroic Missions

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Anysao
04.29.2013 , 09:21 AM | #11
I would sooner cut off my dog's tail, ship it to Canada, have it embalmed in Canadian paper, soak it in orange juice and eat it.

Okay, that was a little too far. But in short: no. This would make PVE way to easy. It would be like making you level50 at the start of your class story.
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comeonucrazyguy
04.29.2013 , 01:04 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Anysao View Post
I would sooner cut off my dog's tail, ship it to Canada, have it embalmed in Canadian paper, soak it in orange juice and eat it.

Okay, that was a little too far. But in short: no. This would make PVE way to easy. It would be like making you level50 at the start of your class story.
I don't, in anyway, agree with the poster's assessment that PVE needs bolster...but is this not EXACTLY what bolster did in PVP? Make it easy for people who don't PVP to compete? Seems like there's a bit of hypocrisy floating around here as it was primarily the hard core PVEers complaining about PVP...
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cyvaris
04.29.2013 , 01:20 PM | #13
If you are going to boost people at 55 in PvP you might as well boost PvE as well.


It is only fair.

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Anysao
04.29.2013 , 01:33 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by cyvaris View Post
If you are going to boost people at 55 in PvP you might as well boost PvE as well.


It is only fair.
It would ruin the thing that built TOR: story. PvP has little story to it, just some background on the warzones. Now imagine a level 14 being bolstered up to face the Battle of Ilum. What? Where is Ilum? There is a war? Who is Malgus? Why am I dying?

The further we are from PVE bolster, the better.
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AshlaBoga
04.29.2013 , 02:59 PM | #15
Why does Level 55 PvP even have bolster? I get the 10-29, 30-54 but why would 55 need it? We're all the same level.
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Ottoattack
04.29.2013 , 04:32 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by AshlaBoga View Post
Why does Level 55 PvP even have bolster? I get the 10-29, 30-54 but why would 55 need it? We're all the same level.
Because someone really smart in BW devs thought that this is the best way from preventing PvPers, who obviously saved all their comms before update, from acquiring 72 lvl hilts/barrels once they hit level 55 (which could theoretically be done in 1 day).

So, what BW did was... make PvP gear status run below 156 PvE gear, then added the lolster (official name for bolster in PvP) to make you gain status in 55 WZs. Needless to say that was not a very bright move, because it is causing PvPers problems in PvP and PvE. Someone in full conqueror can barely pull his/her weight in HM FPs now, and there are very few of them.

I do agree that having a bolster in PvE does not make sense, but you can see where the issue is stemming from. Before the expansion, PvP content had huge entry for PvEers to enter at max level, which was an issue. Now its the exact opposite. The idea was to make both content available for max level players who are geared up through any of the game aspects. Before expansion EWH was within 5-10% from DG. Now conqueror is about 25-30% of UW, not to mention that UW is currently top PvP gear

As a PvPer, 1) I am disappointed in the new PvP system, especially at lvl 55 2) I am disappointed that PvP gear gets you almost no where in PvE. Thus, I am generally disappointed in the expansion.

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Bleeters
04.29.2013 , 04:46 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by AshlaBoga View Post
Why does Level 55 PvP even have bolster? I get the 10-29, 30-54 but why would 55 need it? We're all the same level.
Because PvP, unlike PvE, has no real tiers of content to choose between based on your gneral level of gear progression. The difficulty is based on whoever you get put up against, and there's no real control over that.

In other words, because they presumably didn't want the situation we had with level 50 pvp - beginners in recruit gear existing as little other than cannon fodder for anyone who'd been playing for more than a couple of weeks and thus had massively superior gear, to the point that people in recruit gear were essentially useless to have around even against opponents in War Hero.

'Course, bolster is broken as all hell right now, so it hasn't worked out particularly well.