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Slavery in Star Wars


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schmel
04.27.2013 , 08:37 PM | #1
(Note: this is not a discussion about the morality of slavery--please don't turn it into one.) I was watching some old episodes from season four of The Clone Wars series and they got me thinking: why do they have slaves at all in the star wars universe? In those episodes, they depict the slaves doing things like digging and lifting heavy objects--things that could be done more easily and cheaply by droids. The only case where I could understand (but OBVIOUSLY NOT CONDONE) slavery is with female (or male, I suppose) slaves who were enslaved for their sex appeal--something that a droid could not necessarily replicate. Slavery is everywhere in Star Wars--from Chewbacca to Ackbar to Anakin--but it just doesn't seem to make sense. Can anyone help me out here?

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tunewalker
04.27.2013 , 08:59 PM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by schmel View Post
(Note: this is not a discussion about the morality of slavery--please don't turn it into one.) I was watching some old episodes from season four of The Clone Wars series and they got me thinking: why do they have slaves at all in the star wars universe? In those episodes, they depict the slaves doing things like digging and lifting heavy objects--things that could be done more easily and cheaply by droids. The only case where I could understand (but OBVIOUSLY NOT CONDONE) slavery is with female (or male, I suppose) slaves who were enslaved for their sex appeal--something that a droid could not necessarily replicate. Slavery is everywhere in Star Wars--from Chewbacca to Ackbar to Anakin--but it just doesn't seem to make sense. Can anyone help me out here?
Its free the people already exist you dont have to spend money to build droids and truthfully biological being can be more reliable in a way, they will try to keep themselves alive meaning less of them get killed doing a task and many of them are more compitent then droids. Anakin is an especially good example as he even at a young age was a great pilot and skill mechanic, chewie has superhuman strength the likes of which would expensive to replicate in a droid.

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Warren-Stride
04.27.2013 , 09:14 PM | #3
Slaves are cheaper.
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04.27.2013 , 09:38 PM | #4
A droid may be able to do a lot of things better then a 'human,' but are a lot more expensive. Both the initial cost and upkeep.

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BrianDavion
04.27.2013 , 09:46 PM | #5
Status.
Anyone can own a droid. even a slave on a backwater outer rim world. but to own a PERSON? ahhh now that's a sign of status. clearly you're important

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XantosCledwin
04.27.2013 , 10:05 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by schmel View Post
The only case where I could understand (but OBVIOUSLY NOT CONDONE) slavery is with female (or male, I suppose) slaves who were enslaved for their sex appeal--something that a droid could not necessarily replicate.
Syntheflesh does exist in Star Wars, so technically Droids could be designed for sexual purposes. And heck the Clone Wars does have some droids that were obviously designed with sex appeal in mind. Additionally by the time of Shadows of the Empire (the book set inbetween the Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith) there was actually a biotech droid that was half-machine, half-organic. So it is not too far of a stretch at that point to make droids that are capable of fulfilling the role that female (and in some cases male) slaves fulfill.

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Slaves are cheaper.
Depends on which is cheaper in Star Wars: Food or Electricity? I would go out on a hunch and say that they are equal in value given that Corruscant and Nar Shaddaa exist, but that is debatable.

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Status.
Anyone can own a droid. even a slave on a backwater outer rim world. but to own a PERSON? ahhh now that's a sign of status. clearly you're important
I don't consider Wato all that important. And yet he owned not one, but two PEOPLE. One of which was the Chosen one, for whatever that's worth.
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Warren-Stride
04.27.2013 , 10:11 PM | #7
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Depends on which is cheaper in Star Wars: Food or Electricity?
I wasn't talking about what it takes to run the labor. Building and buying droids is much more expensive than buying/trading slaves, which also reproduce to create a more sustainable supply. Not only that, but if a droid breaks it would be much more expensive to fix it than it would be to fix a human. Or, if you're not going to fix it, it'd be cheaper to buy a living slave than a new droid.
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04.28.2013 , 12:52 AM | #8
Obviosly there is no reason, besides been sadistic human trash to take on slaves.

Droids are cheaper to repair given their parts are mass produced, while Humans and Aliens need medical care, food, housing, implants, etc.

Humans aren't meant to be slaves here or in star wars, it just shows how evil always wants to have more power over people.

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XantosCledwin
04.28.2013 , 01:47 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Warren-Stride View Post
I wasn't talking about what it takes to run the labor. Building and buying droids is much more expensive than buying/trading slaves, which also reproduce to create a more sustainable supply. Not only that, but if a droid breaks it would be much more expensive to fix it than it would be to fix a human. Or, if you're not going to fix it, it'd be cheaper to buy a living slave than a new droid.
Eh, that's debatable. The Star Wars Galaxy's internal Chronometer is 13 billion years old as of the Battle of Yevon. If we go all the way to the end of the Post-Battle of Yevon timeline you can add another 138 years on top of that for a total of 13,000,000,138 years of Galactic existence. Now the first civilization to enter the Galactic Stage evolved in 2,006,200 BBY. They achieved Interstellar Travel (as in traveling from one Solar System to another) exactly 6,200 years later.

It took the homosapiens on earth approximately 100,000 years of development before they were capable of space travel. And we still haven't mastered Interstellar Travel yet. So if it is possible for a species in the Star Wars Universe to achieve such heights of technology in the amount of time it took us to learn how to go from building the Pyramids and Stonehenge all the way to building Skyscrapers (which I might add is a de-evolution in a manner of speaking seeing as how we still have only a rough idea of how those two structures were built), then I wager it is not a difficult leap to assume that it is possible that the Star Wars Universe contains within it a fully functional Autonomous Manufacturing Plant for Droids.

In fact I believe one such facility is called the Star Forge. And what it amounts to is Droids building Droids. Unlike in our world where humans need to be part of the manufacturing process on some level, Droids in Star Wars are smart enough to construct themselves autonomously and without breaks. The only real issue is a power supply large enough to feed the manufacturing plant (Star Forge works off of Solar Energy) and the Raw materials needed to construct these Droids which can be shipped into the manufacturing plant from planets such as Mustafar (which I believe was one of the key locations for material gathering for the Death Star itself seeing as how you practically need a planet consisted of Volcanoes and nothing else to make a steel planetoid).

As for it being cheaper to make a human, not necessarily. I don't know if you are familiar with dog pedigree, but getting a well bred dog can be quite expensive. I imagine the same holds true for slaves as well (though I wouldn't know as I have never actually owned a real slave and don't plan to either). Similar to that is the fact that you have to feed the parents, take proper care of the parents, pay for the parents medical expenses, and all manner of other things. With a droid you only have to repair it on the occasion that it gets damaged, and in some cases it may be cheaper to buy a new droid. Disposing of slaves that callously could get you noticed by the authorities (unless you are a Hutt, in which case you are the Authorities).

Also, your statement automatically assumes that the Imperial and conversely the Republic Credit is an economy system that utilizes the same basic premise as what the modern United States or European Currencies use. Which is to say it assumes that the Credit is a currency that gains its value via loans from banks. There are a whole slew of alternate possibilities that could exist for which the translation into English from Imperial or Republic Basic is easiest to represent by using the system that we see used in the Star Wars Movies. Keep in mind what we hear in the movies need not necessarily be what they are actually saying and things do get lost in translation.

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Obviosly there is no reason, besides been sadistic human trash to take on slaves.

Droids are cheaper to repair given their parts are mass produced, while Humans and Aliens need medical care, food, housing, implants, etc.

Humans aren't meant to be slaves here or in star wars, it just shows how evil always wants to have more power over people.
Please note that in the real world, there have been some genuinely good people who have owned slaves. Thomas Jefferson comes to mind (though he did ultimately release his slaves).
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04.28.2013 , 02:42 AM | #10
Slaves are cheap for their versatility. Maybe u could have droids to do 1 kind of work cheaper (maybe), but it would be significantly more expensive to create droids as versatile as slaves.