Subscription: Advertisement vs Truth

The actual haters, all 1.5 million of them, used the "cancel sub" button.

The actual haters, all 1.5 million of them, used the "cancel sub" button.

I may concede the analogy I used not to be perfect, yours is not right either but closer.

As I viewed, I am a subscriber, and thus subject to the agreement of the subscription terms which are nicely listed, this you are told for your subscription free (I payed for a three month period) I get credits, number of character slots, etc)

For many of us old timers, we have seen the benefits of subscription greatly change over th epast decade with the change of business practices incurred due to Free to Play. Obviously to the old timers, who are paying, the perception that all bells and whistles that comes with the game should be available; it used to be so for the past 20 years, so its not without cause. To a Free to Play person, essentially contributes nothing to buy for the upkeep of the game, they do not expect much out of the game, unless the pay for it in some sort or manner; once more nothing wrong with this. The concept of the company store, where you buy goodies for cash or buy credits for cash is a means for FTP to contribute to the upkeep of the game, and tha tmuch makes sense and is non-controversial.

The controversy begins, when the paying players, don't get all the content which historically has been the practice. It makes matters more complex, when the subscribed player, buys an expansion and thus expecting a return for their investment, would not anyone of us to? Then a few days later, after the release of the expansion, new material is released in the form of an update and surprise, surprise its not available to neither the subscriber nor the expansion payer unless they pay more money for it or use credits they paid for from the subscription price.

As a rule, I have no issues with charging for everything extra to a FTP, but to a subscriber and expansion buyer both? Seems a bit on the wrong side, yet perfectrly legal.

Sue

I'm happy because I would rather you guys charge for this stuff over actual content. However, I dont think people are concerned with whether or not you change the wording. i think they're concerned that when F2P launched, subscriptions had certain clearly stated benefits over F2P, but now you're going back on your word and no longer providing one of these benefits. Instead of subscribers getting ALL character customization options included in our sub, we now only get MORE. To some, this makes it feel like subscriptions are losing their value.

For pete sakes.. The Cathar species is not content.. It is vanity stuff.. To unlock the other species either cost a ton of credits or a ton of time to level a character to 50..

I wouldn't even call them haters.

I'd just call them mature adults.

Haters are the ones that cry "I can't find the unsub button!!1!!1 It doesn't exist! BW is forcing me to stay!!1!!1!11"

Okay. Listen. I've got a compromise. Let me know what you think:

What if subscribers were given some Cartel Coins every month for free? Then, subscribers wouldn't need to pay extra for anything!

The OP tried to pin them on their statement of content for subscribers as justification for complaint. Eric pointed out that it is still currently accurate and that they will be revising it in conjunction with changes to the game in patch 2.1

Is it mature for the Spin Team to instantly flood every thread where the majority of paying customers are expressing frustration and displeasure with any game element in an attempt to drown out those legitimate concerns from paying customers?

Is it mature to always side with the corporation, even when they are allegedly customers of said corporation?

They would have gotten away with it too, if not for us meddling old timers!

I don't feel entitled to anything. I simply expressed my displeasure with their plan. I don't feel I was overly aggressive or 'ranting' as someone else mentioned. I certainly didn't threaten legal action like that same poster described...that would be silly. I just simply expressed that I wasn't happy w/ the way they appear to be handling it. I was even sure to say that it won't change my enjoyment of the game and I won't be playing any less. However, if anyone says anything remotely negative you instantly cast them as a whiner. Step back for a moment and allow people an opinion without casting insults. I wasn't disrespectful to BW or any other posters.