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TaylorNova
04.25.2013 , 02:16 PM | #11
I dont use the WASD keys, because trying to use them, gives me great pain in my right thumb joint, I have to use the arrow keys.

I dont like using a keyboard, because, unfortunately, I have been suffering Arthritic Joint/wear and tear problems for some years, Im waiting on a hip replacement, so I am classed as disabled on DLA.

My left hand is fine, which is why I use the mouse to click more than the keyboard, (im left handed)
I am still waiting for many games to implement Speech recognition technology, so I dont have to type or use WASD so much, but not many want to invest in that for a minority of people like me who find typing very painful.

In fact I had to leave Second Life virtual World after being in it 5 years, because, they stall about investing the Dragon Speech recognition tech in it, urban and air combat in second life is very, very , click orientated.

I am A seasoned Flight sim X Pilot, flying boeing 737s and Embraer Very light jets from Manchester Airport near where i live to European destinations, but The keyboard has been replaced with Saitek USB2 modules that plug and play, The Yoke and three lever throttle quadrant, is all i need to fly the plane, The Auto pilot module is a stand alone piece of hardware that sits on top of yoke. it just has 10 press in/out buttons to press which light up, for altitude, heading, Flight speed, VSI, and approach/ AP on/ off.

These are only in use one at a time, All other functions, like undercarriage, Flaps settings, and bringing up ATC are from large control buttons on the yoke. I only use the keyboard to switch on the batt, APU/ no smoking signs, landing lights and taxi lights.

having said all this, i must go take some pain killers, been typing far more than usual today, so, sorry if i dont reply tonight.. Now you may understand why I click with mouse, and avoid using the keyboard as much as possible. sorry for the none related parts, ouch!, must go. catch up morrow guys.

Ltn Alice signing out

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Dallayna
04.25.2013 , 03:27 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by TaylorNova View Post
I dont use the WASD keys, because trying to use them, gives me great pain in my right thumb joint, I have to use the arrow keys.

I dont like using a keyboard, because, unfortunately, I have been suffering Arthritic Joint/wear and tear problems for some years, Im waiting on a hip replacement, so I am classed as disabled on DLA.

My left hand is fine, which is why I use the mouse to click more than the keyboard, (im left handed)
I am still waiting for many games to implement Speech recognition technology, so I dont have to type or use WASD so much, but not many want to invest in that for a minority of people like me who find typing very painful.

In fact I had to leave Second Life virtual World after being in it 5 years, because, they stall about investing the Dragon Speech recognition tech in it, urban and air combat in second life is very, very , click orientated.

I am A seasoned Flight sim X Pilot, flying boeing 737s and Embraer Very light jets from Manchester Airport near where i live to European destinations, but The keyboard has been replaced with Saitek USB2 modules that plug and play, The Yoke and three lever throttle quadrant, is all i need to fly the plane, The Auto pilot module is a stand alone piece of hardware that sits on top of yoke. it just has 10 press in/out buttons to press which light up, for altitude, heading, Flight speed, VSI, and approach/ AP on/ off.

These are only in use one at a time, All other functions, like undercarriage, Flaps settings, and bringing up ATC are from large control buttons on the yoke. I only use the keyboard to switch on the batt, APU/ no smoking signs, landing lights and taxi lights.

having said all this, i must go take some pain killers, been typing far more than usual today, so, sorry if i dont reply tonight.. Now you may understand why I click with mouse, and avoid using the keyboard as much as possible. sorry for the none related parts, ouch!, must go. catch up morrow guys.

Ltn Alice signing out
I grok that one as I have hand problems myself which, thankfully means that I can help you with your keybindings- namely, when in combat I use the numberpad and move with my good hand and utilize my bad one (in my case the left) to simply alternate bars by pressing just one single button this gives me acess to three bars at 12 slots each for a total of 36 powers for which I barely even utilize my bad hand for- thus saving it and increasing my attack-speed.

1 the first thing you want to do is going into the User Interface (UI) editor. Among all of the nifty things that you can do with the various elements is turn on more than one bar and move them around until you are comfortable with their placement.

2. Now you go into prefrences and under the Keybindings tab you are going to hotkey.
For your primary bar- under slot-1, just press whatever 1 key that you prefer (right or left), then for slot 2, press whatever 2 key you want (right or left).... etc, etc, etc, etc.

Now we get to the part that's going to make life a whole lot easier. With your bad hand (in your case, I'm assuming the right) push down the nearest Ctrl button. And then proceed to do the precise same steps as you did for the first bar while holding that button down.

For the third bar, do the same thing with the Alt button.

When you save and close it out, if you have done it properly, you should see teeny-tiny letters in the top left-hand corner of each slot. Your first bar should read: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5....
Your second bar should read: c-1,c-2,c-3,c-4...
Your third bar should read: a-1, a-2, a-3, a-4....

What this means in combat.

To activate any of the powers in the second bar, hit the button number with your dominant hand while holding the Ctrl button down with the other. You do the same thing with the Alt button to access the third bar.

Now, it may take a bit of practice but it will allow you to take advantage of keybinds and your keyboard without agravating your weaker hand nearly as much because all you're really doing is just dropping it onto or off of two buttons- which just so happen to be at the very bottom of the board- thus allowing you to even rest your entire arm on the table before it and changing that motion from weak and fragile fingers to much sturdier and more stable lower arm.

Now, I'll admit that, to this day, if my hands aren't being cooperative I'll sometimes wind up missing either the Ctrl or the Alt- or hitting the wrong one but it has allowed me to keep up with the husband. And, I have gone from only being able to play for 20 minutes at a time to 2 hours with the change in set up.

Another piece of advice would be to play either a sorcerer, sage or anything else with a great deal of AoE's because those require a mouse in order to activate and also because the playstyle puts you further to the back behind the tanks and thus allows for more time to react.

And, last, but not least, when was the last time you upgraded your gear? I only ask because it's usually the teeny tiny things that always winds up biting my backside if I'm not paying attention.

GL.

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SpoeMeister
04.25.2013 , 04:52 PM | #13
Since we are on the same server, I'll be happy to meet you up with my gunslinger.

My Gunslinger is called Eve'lynn. I'm usually online every evening from 8PM CEST, so that would be 7PM UK time.

You can send me a message in-game so I'll know who you are. Let me know what times you usually play and we'll work something out :-) I think I'm still on Tatooine or Alderaan quest wise... Use her for PvP a lot.

EDIT: I wanted to recommend a gaming mouse for you so you'll have your keybinds on the good hand... But I don't know if they have lefthanded gaming mice.
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Dallayna
04.26.2013 , 10:47 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by SpoeMeister View Post
Since we are on the same server, I'll be happy to meet you up with my gunslinger.

My Gunslinger is called Eve'lynn. I'm usually online every evening from 8PM CEST, so that would be 7PM UK time.

You can send me a message in-game so I'll know who you are. Let me know what times you usually play and we'll work something out :-) I think I'm still on Tatooine or Alderaan quest wise... Use her for PvP a lot.

EDIT: I wanted to recommend a gaming mouse for you so you'll have your keybinds on the good hand... But I don't know if they have lefthanded gaming mice.
Yeah, I researched gaming mice myself a while back and I do know that they do make both left and right handed ones and I even thought about recommending it at first myself as well but the OP stated that he's disabled so I assumed given their expensive nature, he didn't have the extra $ to spend on what to him is an entirely new type of gaming that he's still a little uncertain that he can comfortably play.

And, yes, I know that problem as well because you can love the game- absolutely adore it until the cows come home but if you can't play it without getting a wealth of agony in return, you just wind up with yet another thing that you would love to be able to do but can't.

But, you are right in that it is something that he can look into at least because when it comes to chronic pain everyone's mobility is just a little different- so just changing from one type of keyboard or mouse to another can sometimes make a world of difference as to accessibility.

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KBerling
04.26.2013 , 11:37 AM | #15
Try space missions. At low levels, they can be run with mouse only and even at high levels the need for keyboard input is minimal. Use xp boosts while doing so.

Over-level your character. Try to stay at a minimum 4 levels over quest level. This will reduce the difficulty you are experiencing from less than optimal command of the keyboard. You still get full xp from mob kills and quests up to +6 over mob/quest level.

Don't spend credits on anything until after you're sure you have enough to pay for your next batch of new/upgraded abilities. Nothing is more important than immediately upgrading your abilities.

Give your Vanguard a break for while and start a Powertech. You'll use the exact same skills and abilities you're already familiar with but your Powertech comes with a healer at Comp level 1.

Forget crafting for now. Take 3 gathering skills and sell the stuff you collect on GTN.

If you have a few extra English pounds, buy some cartel packs from the Cartel Market and sell the stuff on GTN for credits.

Look into a multi-button gaming mouse to take some of the load off of your right hand.

Join a guild that will help you with class and planetary questline boss fights.

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FizzwickNuffaa
04.26.2013 , 01:16 PM | #16
I'll offer a couple suggestions myself. I use an older version of this myself. Obviously it isn't built for lefties but with some creative desk arranging, you might be able to get it oriented in a manner you could use. The game control area is pretty easy to use with big movement buttons and you can use the smaller buttons to fire abilities and such. Not ideal perhaps but might work. The other alternative would be to do some looking for a gamepad. A few keyboard/mouse makers have them. They're like a mini keyboard with some sort of directional keys and a small array of programmable keys for attacks and such. That might prove to be a more comfortable alternative to the full keyboard.

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NOTACTICS
04.26.2013 , 01:17 PM | #17
If your are a trooper use a tank companion if your hand to hand its best to have a healing companion. If you have a tank companion use him in guard stance which will create threat on him and increse his defense rating to absorb more damgage. Dont forgot to gear up your companion to their main skills too, its just as important as gearing up yourself really.

Like been stated by other focus on the weakest first, always focus on one enemy at a time until they are dead as some heal dont forget. I good tactic is to use stun/crowd control ability on the strongest first so you can get to work on the weaker ones before the strongest wakes back up. What you have to be careful of here is that if the one Stunned is close to the others that an area of attack move that effects a stunned target will wake him back up straight away.

Conserve you energy a little aswell dont get caught out going full on with constant succesion of tech moves which will drain your energy more do tech attack and then throw in a couple of normals in between so that your energy does not deplete too much too quickly, this will also mean with the cooldowns involved that you will awalys have at least one tech move available to use at any one time. You should have a restore energy ability available aswell which is useful to bump you back up when it starts to get low, keep it reserve when you most need it. I find energy is often more crucial than health.

Power is the main stat to look to when gearing up as that will increase your base attack damage. Relics that give temp power boost can be useful aswell in a tight situation and can really boost your damage in a time of need.

Critical rating and alacrity stat boosts are helpful but choose power over these first when choosing gear.

I am new to the game I have a lvl 29 gunslinger and Sniper and have very rarely had to use any med pacs, providing I plan my attacks a little i have had little trouble staying alive so far. Yes we all kop it every now and then but that is usually down to me trying to be too cavalier and taking much on or forgetting to heal my companion tank before the fight.

Ensure your tool bars, interface and key bindings are set you help you in the most comfortable way.

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TaylorNova
04.26.2013 , 01:21 PM | #18
Hi Dallayna & SpoeMeister

Sorry for delay in reply today, RL you know

Dallayana I am indebted to your knowledge of how you get round the problem of painful keyboard use.

Although the steps you have outlined seem simplicity to you, im not use to keybindings much, But have used
The interface keybind menu to change Jump key to assign it to Press down the scroll button on Mouse, which has made jumping over obstacles and enemies Much easier, instead of using the keyboard.

So I guess, This is going to teach me a lot about key bindings, which , along with SpoeMeister's Tutorial on Reverse engineering, I have quite a bit to do and put into practice.

Actually my Argos bought, black piano finish keyboard, with short indented keys has made life easier, the old fashioned high block keys types I can't use now anyway. This old Board is now a good Three years, and want to buy this one, as its a mini one. ( damn this thumb joint..wince) A smaller keyboard, is ideal for me, so I dont have to stretch my fingers as far, Unfortunately Amazon uk is out of this, until new stock arrives.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Using Number keys, seems to be a solution to my problem, especially as they are near the arrow keys I use for movements. I have copied the instructions to Wordpad, so I can sit somewhere quite like Tython, so I can start putting my skills the way you have indicated, also, I can try them out on the low level NPCs there to get the feel of how they all going to work.

On the matter of upgrades, I learn't the hard way, being in WoW all those years at lvl 42 Paladin, that armour needs to be kept up to 80% most of the time to avoid early defeats and higher repair costs. Although I must say, I amassed quite a lot of money in WoW, and was never short, Not like I seem to be here on a daily basis. I was in a guild for a year, But unlike here, any efforts and reputation, and "capture Flag zones" earn't you Guild Credits.

For some reason, reputation is not the same here, its not like, say I have "revered"status in Taris, Reputation seemed to be geared to something entirely differant. Anyway, it must be said, I dont Join Guilds or groups here if possible, because, the simple reason, is, My hands are not quick enough to keep up with youngsters probably with hi tech gaming keyboards and the like.

As I explained earlier I really enjoyed playing my Jedi Sage, now lvl 19, I find the storyline, after saving my jedi Master/Mistress from The "plague master's" illness quite spiritual and as a Seer /healer as a Lycan for 4 years in Second life, Its really where my calling is. BUT, having put so much into my main Alice Trooper, and being assigned three new members of Havoc Squad to me, It would be silly to give Alice T up, I will play both still, hopefully using the same new keybindings you have outlined.

Both keyboard and my small Microsoft optical mouse has seen better days, after over 2 years continued use, But finances are tight once more at the moment, although I could afford that mini keyboard.

A gaming mouse as SpoeMeister spoke of, would probably be quite expensive.

For the weekend I am going to have more fun with my Jedi Sage, My trooper is doing quite hard missions now, and really, my thumb as I speak is crying out for rest, My partner thinks a thumb joint support would help, But no idea if it would be a help or a hindrance.

SpoeMeister Thanks for the offer to meet inworld, I will look you up, as soon as I can assign the keys, as above, and then have better game play for both charactors. I will give my Alice trooper a rest over the weekend, as shes Burnt out, And Elara could do with some downtime on the ship, shes worked hard for me all week.

Dallayna Thanks again for the tips, I know you feel my frustration and, we probably wince most of the time using keyboards

Your both welcome to add me, and see how it goes.

AliceTvirus ------------- (Taylor-Nova) (legacy name) LVL 32 Republic Trooper
Aliceafterlife ------------ (TaylorNova) LVL 19 Jedi Sage

yes, I am a huge fan of Resident Evil, and Mila (Alice) is who I try to portray in my game play, She may kick ***, and is a tough Cookie, But she has her compassionate side, Which is why she continues to rise into the Blue light side of the force.

Many thanks for all the help given, its all on a notepad so i can learn it all at my own pace.

See you over the weekend I hope)

Regards Alice X

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SpoeMeister
04.26.2013 , 01:32 PM | #19
Since we're now posting possible left handed stuff, I want to throw this in. It has some very good reviews by lefthanded users as it is quite ambidextruous. 9 controllable buttons should be plenty to start with (as I adviced to keybind 5-10 main abilities to start with) and it's fairly easy to configure (drag and drop feature). On top of that, it's not even that pricey for a gaming mouse. 25 pound (which I think are around 35 euros) is fairly affordable if it means gaming more comfortably.

Many good suggestions here! :-)

EDIT: I wrote down your in-game names. You will receive a message.
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TaylorNova
04.26.2013 , 01:49 PM | #20
Awwww Thanks so much for the extra input by the above contributors, what a helpful Lot you are

Really, having played WoW a long time, But been out of it, 2 year or more, I should really not be so dumb. hahaha

Well Before I run off and decapitate a Sith with my Sage, I would add, that, yes I am looking into alternative controls, because, yes I love playing the game and storylines, but , it can become impossible to do a lot some days, each day with arthritis is never the same, this week, its been bad, last week, hardly any problems,

You all make very valid points, Space missions I would like to do more off, but need more than lvl 3 upgrades now to win some of the harder space scenarios.

Elara is my best asset for my Alice trooper, because she can heal really well, and there is where I think I have gone wrong, I have spent a lot of credits on Elara's Armour, at the expense of Aric, Who I guess is the tank?

Obviously when I needed Aric along on the Mission outlined in my first posting, I had not upgraded him for several weeks, there fore I have have to spend small fortune of recieved credits last week on trying to keep both of them well equipped.

I will reply again soon, But for now, must go and try set these keybindings up, before Anything else. I do understand and have learnt you need to be 3-4 levels higher than the base planet default level, Which is why I was disconcerted as to why, an old litter droid and 4 lowly guards was able to take me out, when Im actually several levels above them.

Im sure all your kind help will make a better Alice, and I thank you all for giving constructive help, and not the usual forum trolls that, like to make unhelpful, usually unrelated daft answers. be back here over the weekend on how i get on.

Cheers all