RotHC // 2.0 : Healing - It's ridiculous.

We are suppose to believe a someone like you, who just clearly wants to keep his god healer from being nerfed, knows anything about balance? I don't even need to provide in-game evidence to prove your are wrong. Anyone with a brain can tell how bias your post is, and therefore your credibility is non-existent.

I also like to point out how much of a noob you are when it comes to Warhammer. Warhammer was designed from the ground up to be a team effort, so there was a lot of rock, paper, and scissor classes. Warhammer was always suppose to be played with 4-6 other people in mind, never 1vs1 matches. For example, a WP or DoK was no match against a Witch Hunter, or Witch Elf. SWTOR, however, was designed very much like WoWs. Each class was suppose to be able to hold it's own against another. They accomplished this before 1.2, but ruined with every patch after. Warhammer Online and SWTOR are two completely different games.

Its one genius, the others that you will be referencing are CC, all of which fill the resolve bar, all of which only have a limited window of opportunity to work and have significant cooldowns. Even Bioware had to give up on the "cc is your interrupt" line for mercs/commandos.

What class do I play? All of them including a unkillable operative healer which was nearly unkillable pre 2.0 which is retired now because frankly its embarrassing and feels like punching kittens.

You playing a sage healer is NO surprise to anyone here.

I heal and just wondering if TTK is too short how can healers be too strong? I use to average 500-700k heals before 2.0 in bubble spec. Now I average about 800k-1mil. The old hp average was about 20k and now it is about 30k when geared. 20k/30k=67% and 500k/800k=63% The average gain is less than 5%. I think the problem with heals now is that melee dps is not that strong. I have no problems with melee, but range dps is a headache for me. Also tanks are viable again.

Lol. Just got out of a civil war where one of the healers, out of three, actually had time to global chat...

"Give it up you can't kill us"


Yah. Healing isn't a problem right now. Ha. Keep it up guys. Tell us its not a problem.

I've been seeing that from the sorcs a lot. They toss up that bubble, then mock people as the other healer fills them up while we can't hurt him. Pretty annoying.

I had a game where it was a standard 300-0 Alderaan where we won and we pretty much never killed their healers in the entire game and they had time to type exactly the same thing.

People need to realize the difference between unkillable and unwinnable. Unless your team has no healers, the so-called 'unkillable' healers work in your favor too. You just have to make sure they never take an objective, which isn't very hard when they can't kill you either. By the way, it's still easier for DPS to stop and attempt to capture an objective compared to a healer in a total stalemate. After all, if a DPS stops to cap something it's not like the healer then unleashes his own DPS to kill the DPS, but the reverse is definitely possible.

When you consider Sorc got Force Barrier but nobody got 'dispel invulnerability' of course healing is slightly ahead just because they've access to some new abilities that they never had while DPS did not get anything that'd counter the said new abilities. So of course the balance leans toward the healers a bit more than before, but this really only applies in the no healer versus at least 1 healer scenario. Those games are always very difficult to win, but they're harder than before now. Still, that's more like a matchmaking issue because it's hard to imagine to design a game where a team with no healers can consistently keep up with a team that has at least one.

I don't know the solutions but healing does seem a little overturned right now. The number of healers seems to determine the outcome of matches very often.

What?

2 DD's should not be able to take down a healer? Are you serious?

You can't make this calculation, because 1 Healer = 2 DD's, 2 Healers = 4 DD's, 3 Healers = 6 DD's, 4 Healers = 8 DD's.

Can you see the issue with that?

At last 2 DD's should be able to kill a healer without any higher effort. But right now, good healers can outheal ( with hit & run - especially Sorcs ) 2 DD's.

NO NO NO NO NO.

We saw what happened the last time they hit healers with the nerf bat. DPS have ruled the roost for over a year, and finally healers can do something, and we have people crying nerf. Before we over-react, why don't we wait for people to max out 55, and see where things lie. I guarantee you that top DPS players will know how to lock down and burst down healers, with the exception of perhaps OP healers, which are seriously well resourced right now. Roll cannot be countered, not even by electronet.

The last time healers got the nerf, most classes didnt even know how to interrupt. My best mate played a top sentinel and didnt even know what it was. He never had issues bursting down healers.

And can we please, for the love of all that is good in the world, agree that Merc and Commando healers should stay exactly as they are. They have limited mobility, limited cool downs, and are easily interrupted.

Most DPS will interrupt the healer with their opener (leap, shoot first etc), then dps, then use their interrupt, then dps, then stun, then dps, then interrupt again, finally if they really need to, stun or push. If then can't kill them in this time, then they are at least keeping him out of the game and he isn't healing anyone else.

Like has already been said, DPS have been tailored to for so long, that they feel they should be able to kill any healer they focus alone. Why do you think that you should be able to kill any healer you attack in a 1v1? This is an 8v8 game. Things should be relatively even between the roles, unless you have superior skill, or they are outnumbered. A dps deals damage, a healer heals damage. When they fight, it should be a relative stalemate, but dps are so accustomed to winning that heaven forbid a healer survive a conflict.

I will agree though, that scoundrels and ops need some slight nerfing. Their hots ad instant heals allow them to stay up and ignore interupts. This means you have to completely burst them down during stun phases which is way too hard.

He mentioned a 'tank and healer' duo. As in a 2v2.