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KeyboardNinja
04.25.2013 , 09:22 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Aikiyc View Post
Was the 2.0 crit nerf really that bad? ._. Makes me a sad panda. Operatives really need dat crit. :<
Well, *everything* got nerfed except power. Power's value is relative to other stats though, so it sort of balances out. There will come a time very soon when healers and DPS start stacking crit again, but the problem now is we just don't have enough of a stat budget to have enough power *together* with enough crit to make a difference. Thus, the math swings entirely toward power.
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Cookiackus
04.25.2013 , 01:28 PM | #12
What about a Gunslinger running the DF and Sab Hybrid build though. We still want to have our crit at around 30% regardless so that we are getting the energy regen from the crits right? I'm so confused on this new gearing. Can anyone help with this?
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Ordo
04.25.2013 , 01:59 PM | #13
I've been aiming for about 30-32% crit on Haka. I suggest aim for a higher crit then you think you need then work your way back down. Basically your looking for the lowest possible number where the energy is still manageable for you. (At least, this is the way I've been working it. Hope it helps.)
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KeyboardNinja
04.25.2013 , 02:16 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Cookiackus View Post
What about a Gunslinger running the DF and Sab Hybrid build though. We still want to have our crit at around 30% regardless so that we are getting the energy regen from the crits right? I'm so confused on this new gearing. Can anyone help with this?
Mostly what Haka said. For specs that are dependent on crits for regen (dirty fighting and watchman), you basically just want the lowest possible crit where you can still smoothly manage energy. I think 30% might be a good sweet spot for dirty fighting / hybrid, perhaps a bit lower. It's going to take a bit of experimentation.
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Damastes
04.26.2013 , 01:02 AM | #15
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Trying to only update when I hit a new hundred I'm not sure whether it is optimal to use Shadow Strike as often as possible (via Low Slash or Spinning Kick), or only on its normal proc. However, it is definitely more interesting/fun to use it often. You lose a good amount of CS DPS, but pretty much make it up (and sometimes exceed) with Shadow Strike and Low Slash--at least from what I've seen with my parses, on the PTS and now.
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Cookiackus
04.26.2013 , 01:18 AM | #16
Gear is 4 63, 2 69, and 1 72 armorings. 7 69, and 2 72 mods. 1 61, 2 63, 3 69, and 1 72 enhancements. Black market implants and ear piece. Underworld on use power relic and arkanian on proc power relic. 1 69 barrel (MH) and 1 72 barrel (OH).

Spec - DF/Sabo Hybrid

Parsed 2537.86

http://www.torparse.com/a/194486
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ML_DoubleTap
04.26.2013 , 09:44 AM | #17
Nice thead, KBN. It's good to see some of th PvE folks getting a little competitive on the forums We should do a 'PvE Records' thread too with DPS/HPS on actual raid bosses as well. Anyways, my main PvE toon is a healer, but I'll post up a Scoundrel parse tonight just to get it started and support the thread
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ellenbec
04.26.2013 , 09:46 AM | #18
Done strictly for the lolz of this and to put something on the PT/VG section so

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Spec http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#30...roMdRRZrkMZb.3
Parse http://www.torparse.com/a/194014/tim...142/0/Overview
Mostly 66 gear

Overheated at the end though which was a pain.
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KeyboardNinja
04.26.2013 , 02:24 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Damastes View Post
I'm not sure whether it is optimal to use Shadow Strike as often as possible (via Low Slash or Spinning Kick), or only on its normal proc. However, it is definitely more interesting/fun to use it often. You lose a good amount of CS DPS, but pretty much make it up (and sometimes exceed) with Shadow Strike and Low Slash--at least from what I've seen with my parses, on the PTS and now.
Have a 3D plot: http://imgur.com/bVuIoEZ You're looking at the *bottom* of the surface. The z axis (up/down) is the percentage ratio indicating how much more damage LS + SS does over 2x CS. The x axis (left side) is main hand damage, while the y axis (right side) is bonus damage.

As you can see, the LS + SS combination does about 37.75% more damage than just using two Clairvoyant Strikes, which means that you should hit that combo as soon as LS is off cooldown (unless Find Weakness is already up, in which case you should do SS > LS > SS). In addition, LS > SS costs 43 Force, while CS > CS costs 46. So not only is the DPS better, but the DPE (damage per energy) is better as well.

The one thing that this calculation does *not* take into account is the fact that the CS > CS combo builds two stacks of Circling Shadows, while LS > SS only builds one. I'm not sure exactly how to quantify this, but it's certainly worthy of note. Even with this inaccuracy though, I'm still pretty confident that LS > SS on cooldown is the correct priority.
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KeyboardNinja
04.26.2013 , 02:29 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by ellenbec View Post
Done strictly for the lolz of this and to put something on the PT/VG section so

Shield Tech
Spec http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#30...roMdRRZrkMZb.3
Parse http://www.torparse.com/a/194014/tim...142/0/Overview
Mostly 66 gear

Overheated at the end though which was a pain.
If you want to submit a fair tank DPS parse, I would actually go and beat on Lucky for a while. Bring a pocket healer and two warriors for interrupts (but no armor debuffs). That fight is about the closest thing to an unending tank-and-spank as you can get. I know that personally, tanking in HM S&V, I'm able to sustain about 1160 DPS as long as I'm actually taking damage at boss-level swing times (see http://www.torparse.com/a/192369/29/0/Damage+Dealt and http://www.torparse.com/a/192369/9/0/Damage+Dealt). I can burst over short intervals in the 1200-1300 DPS range (see: http://www.torparse.com/a/192369/17/0/Damage+Dealt). If I'm not taking damage, I'm not sure what my DPS would be (haven't parsed on a dummy lately), but probably a LOT lower.
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Tam (shadow tank) Tov-ren (commando healer) Aveo (retired sentinel) Nimri (ruffian scoundrel)
Averith (marksman sniper) Alish (lightning sorcerer) Aresham (vengeance jugg) Effek (pyro pt)