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Server Transfers, 10 Months Later....

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Server Transfers, 10 Months Later....

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Vegihan
04.18.2013 , 02:33 PM | #11
Official announcements have stopped but not them talking about the issue. Here is a post I posted for someone else earlier this month.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=6102124

Until they have a solid date for when they will roll it out you will only hear soon or we are working on it. Around January they said there were a couple phases to getting it out. The first was PTS copy which they had but didn't work all that well. I assume they are working with all the data they had from that to make it better. If the character copy we had for PTS was implemented live there would be so many QQ threads they couldn't keep up. I know I was able to transfer my characters but none of the comms or credits they had. This is an issue if you are doing it on live servers. Also the PTS one didn't remove the original character. The PTS copy didn't work for everyone either.

I would rather have to wait and have them make sure it is done right then rush it and have it be broken.
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petesalzl
04.18.2013 , 02:47 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Vegihan View Post
Official announcements have stopped but not them talking about the issue. Here is a post I posted for someone else earlier this month.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=6102124

Until they have a solid date for when they will roll it out you will only hear soon or we are working on it. Around January they said there were a couple phases to getting it out. The first was PTS copy which they had but didn't work all that well. I assume they are working with all the data they had from that to make it better. If the character copy we had for PTS was implemented live there would be so many QQ threads they couldn't keep up. I know I was able to transfer my characters but none of the comms or credits they had. This is an issue if you are doing it on live servers. Also the PTS one didn't remove the original character. The PTS copy didn't work for everyone either.

I would rather have to wait and have them make sure it is done right then rush it and have it be broken.
Though I am starting to get impatient with this considering the server merge saw me renaiming all but one character, part of me doesnt want to wait. However, i'm sure they realise that rolling it out before it works and causing a bunch of problems with people losing characters or items or worse cartel coins (worse cause of the real money part), that the fallout from that would be far worse than the new thread for server transferes that is created each and every day.

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curtkram
04.18.2013 , 02:48 PM | #13
thanks for the link Vegihan. that statement from customer service did not actually say that this was something they intend to implement at any point in the future. it also does not clarify whether future transfers would be voluntary, or if players could voluntarily pick a server to transfer to. there is still hope. 'hope' is a word Cerimon actually used in her response.

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Tommot
04.18.2013 , 03:04 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Syas View Post
I am not saying they shouldn't have a name change service; but what makes you think this is any different than changing, for instance, race or gender?
Story makes that more difficult. If your name changes, story remains unchanged. If your race or sex is changed, parts of your story will play out differently (small parts, but theyre still there and cant be ignored).

For example, if you switch your male character to a female then what happens with your companion romances? Sure you could say, "just let your character be a lesbian," but I highly doubt the dialogue has been recorded for this.

This is true with a species change as well, but it probably doesnt make as much of a difference since all the references to your species are done in conversations and dont build on themselves in future conversations (like the romances do). This is probably while were getting species changes soon and not sex changes. But I still dont understand why no name changes?
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petesalzl
04.18.2013 , 03:17 PM | #15
someone atleast responded about this finally, not really that helpful, but hey.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=627949

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Arlbo_Nabbins
04.18.2013 , 04:08 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Icebergy View Post
It has been 10 months since "the initial phase of our Character Transfer Service".

The community expected paid transfers 9 months ago.
Part of the community expected it 9 months ago. I certainly did not.

The issue with paid transfers is it exacerbates server pop imbalances which are an issue when servers are near capacity.

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tzagheru
04.18.2013 , 04:11 PM | #17
Soon™
Quote: Originally Posted by ObiJuanShenobi View Post
Honestly, you should apologize to Bioware for trying to run their game on a system or internet connection that is obviously the absolute shiz.
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Totaltrash
04.18.2013 , 04:21 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by petesalzl View Post
someone atleast responded about this finally, not really that helpful, but hey.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=627949
Usual vague Bioware blah-blah.

They have the technology for server transfers since April 2012 when the first wave of forced server merges was initiated. Because that involved a lot of character renaming, they also have the technology for name changes in place. Since 1.4 they have the technology for micro transactions. It would be very easy to add both to the cartel market and of course, Bioware would LOVE to generate extra revenue from name changes and transfers.

So why don't they?

Let's assume you pay for a name change or a server transfer and a few weeks later, that server will be closed and you are forced to transfer somewhere else where you lose your name again.
Naturally, you would be upset and (if you are like me) you would demand a refund.

The most probable answer is unstable game population.

SWTOR lost 1.2 million subbed accounts after launch and it went down to approximately 500K subs. As a result, they were forced to merge servers. Now they have something like 2M accounts total, but that includes all the F2P accounts. Outside of EA/Bioware, it is anyone's guess if these accounts really generate a significant revenue stream.

To avoid customer complaints and refunds, Bioware is likely holding off until they believe that SWTOR has become a successful and stable MMO.

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Icebergy
04.18.2013 , 04:59 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Arlbo_Nabbins View Post
Part of the community expected it 9 months ago. I certainly did not.

The issue with paid transfers is it exacerbates server pop imbalances which are an issue when servers are near capacity.
Paid transfers will have very minimal impact on server populations. I already play full time on Jedi Covenant, I want to play my alts that are stuck on Shadowlands, but I don't want to play them on Shadowlands. Therefore I will still be playing on Jedi Cov and still not be playing on Shadowlands. I would guess a rather large majority of the people that want transfers are in the same boat as me.

Regardless, that excuse was valid 6 months ago, it holds no water now.
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Icebergy
04.22.2013 , 08:36 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Gammawaves View Post
considering they dont even have a character rename service, the most basic and simple of all services, its not a suprise you cant transfer characters. The common reason given is that they dont have the technology to do transfers since transfers require futuristic advanced technology they havnt discovered yet. Ive also heard that something to do with transferring legacy is a problem.
Character rename is not a basic service, it is one I am personally very opposed to and think it has no place in MMOs.

They did them back in June, they can do them now. They told us the PTS copy was kinda like a beta for transfers, the PTS has been long closed and the copies seemed to work fine at the end.

There are no more excuses.
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