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[HEROIC 4] The Shroud's Last Stand. Needs a Nerf!

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[HEROIC 4] The Shroud's Last Stand. Needs a Nerf!

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AshlaBoga
04.23.2013 , 10:36 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
There is a reason the daily Heroic 4 on belsavis was turned into a 2 man..

This quest should also be turned into a 2 man as well.. Or allow it to be done with companions.. That is what they are for isn't it??

I have spent 5 days attempting to get a group.. I have found 3 groups.. In all of them the healer leaves at the last boss or after 1 or 2 attempts on the last boss..

It is totally ridiculous how hard it is to get a group for this quest.. Bioware picks strange places to put a heroic 4.. After a LONG single player chain is not a good place.. The chain was awesome until I got to the heroics..

Seriously Bioware.. What were you thinking??
I don't even think they changed the difficulty of the Belsavis Heroic 4, didn't people just find it easy and complain about it being called a 4 man?
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Slowpokeking
04.24.2013 , 09:45 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by JediCahlwyn View Post
I'm sorry but I hope they don't change em. You can help people who are on the quest even if you aren't (helped several guildmates who needed it when I had finished (and even before I started). They are fun quests and its nice to have some challenge. I'm in a small guild and I don't have any problems getting help, I suggest you get in a social guild.

Oh and OP: The forum isn't "dead" if nobody replies to a whining post in 1 hour...
Most of the people don't help others, it took many of us a lot of time to find a group.

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Radzkie
04.24.2013 , 10:28 AM | #43
This heroic four was easy. If anything, they should BUFF it not nerf it. I helped some of my guildies do it. Our group was composed of three healers(because I was too lazy to respec DPS/switch characters) and one poorly geared DPS, yet we still took him down in one shot. I think some people who call for nerfs just aren't willing to put ANY effort into learning how to play this game.

I understand that people get frustrated if they seemly can't find a group for it. The thing is, there are multiple options that someone can utilize in order to find a group; guilds, fleet general chat or just simply making friends that can help. Some people seem to forget that SWTOR is an MMO, not a solo player only game.
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Lostpenguins
04.24.2013 , 11:38 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Radzkie View Post
This heroic four was easy. If anything, they should BUFF it not nerf it. I helped some of my guildies do it. Our group was composed of three healers(because I was too lazy to respec DPS/switch characters) and one poorly geared DPS, yet we still took him down in one shot. I think some people who call for nerfs just aren't willing to put ANY effort into learning how to play this game.

I understand that people get frustrated if they seemly can't find a group for it. The thing is, there are multiple options that someone can utilize in order to find a group; guilds, fleet general chat or just simply making friends that can help. Some people seem to forget that SWTOR is an MMO, not a solo player only game.
What I understand, here, is saying, the OP is not complaining, per se, about having to group. It's that there's more coordination with any HM FP and there's no group finder to help you queue for it. It'd be nice if they added this one and the seeker one to the LFG for those people.

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MajikMyst
04.24.2013 , 01:26 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
Most of the people don't help others, it took many of us a lot of time to find a group.
Some of us still haven't found a group.. After over a week of wasting our time spamming general on Nar Shaddaa..
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MajikMyst
04.24.2013 , 01:28 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by AshlaBoga View Post
I don't even think they changed the difficulty of the Belsavis Heroic 4, didn't people just find it easy and complain about it being called a 4 man?
You would be incorrect.. The heroics were in fact nerfed to allow 2 people to do them.. People complained for the same reasons people complain about his..

It really sucks trying to find a group.. Not everyone is in a guild full of people at their beck and call to run anything they need..

Bioware really should nerf this.. Or provide the people to run the groups with.. Since companions can't be used..
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IAAIAO
04.25.2013 , 03:58 AM | #47
Nothing should be "nerfed" in a game because you can't be patient and use your brain.

But I agree on a point :

This chain quest is poorly designed. Did developers think about the fact that finding 55 on lvl 20-40 planets won't be that easy ? Most of them come with guildies.

Spamming at the fleet is annoying for everyone.

Second what's the point with these ****** rewards ? A 12 hours chain quest for 3 junk items and a few comms ? And a ****** title ?

Please.

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dinwitt
04.25.2013 , 12:12 PM | #48
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Lostpenguins
04.25.2013 , 01:18 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by IAAIAO View Post
Nothing should be "nerfed" in a game because you can't be patient and use your brain.

But I agree on a point :

This chain quest is poorly designed. Did developers think about the fact that finding 55 on lvl 20-40 planets won't be that easy ? Most of them come with guildies.

Spamming at the fleet is annoying for everyone.

Second what's the point with these ****** rewards ? A 12 hours chain quest for 3 junk items and a few comms ? And a ****** title ?

Please.
Take out the need to locate the seeds for the Seeker quest and the comm towers for the bino quest and everything else was fun. The little puzzles. The 2 main instance places for the seeds. All of the instances for the binos. That was fun and really well put together.

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Asavrede
04.25.2013 , 02:15 PM | #50
I think it's a poor design choice to make two ultra-solo storylines end with "must-group content". By all means make H4s, but make them standalone or make storylines that are actually all H4s or something. This mix and match just causes grief.