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Why should I feel bad about wanting to faceroll fresh 55's?

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Why should I feel bad about wanting to faceroll fresh 55's?

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BalphoWan
04.17.2013 , 08:43 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by ChicagoBearsFan View Post
Balphowan,
Why do you feel you need justify your self to the community? As long as you are operating within the bounds of the game and the ToS/EULA, (ie, not cheating) then what does it matter if you do or do not enjoy "face rolling noobs"? We all have our own convictions and I do not determine mine by what the community says.

There are those who will come down on either side of any given fence...so it's for you to decide which side you want to be on in regards to this issue.
Just be warned though, if you land on my side, I'm going to blast you with my assault cannon
Excellent point. I will see you out there...

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rhakoth
04.17.2013 , 08:49 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
I remember back in EQ1 people told me I'm awesome tank and I always told them you should thank my gear for being awesome because I can do most of this stuff while totally AFK. It seems like that's the preferred method of playing for most people in PvP though. People want to thank their gear for being awesome as opposed to themselves for being awesome.

This completely. Anyone who doesn't pvp to try their skills against another in a relatively equal setting is just a bully who gets a kick of of beating up people with an unfair advantage imo. I would like to see these guys in real life be stuck naked in a ring weaponless while someone walks in wearing full plate and is mentally retarded yet still wails on them. I bet the gear difference is the first thing the start screaming at =)

But it's only a game right, not real life. Okay - so you can only pick on people in a digital environment, good for you!!

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Banderal
04.18.2013 , 04:46 AM | #63
I only read the first two pages of these replies (because my boss is coming in soon ), so maybe someone already mentioned this, or maybe no one cares at this point... but with the OP mentioning that he still does mostly PvE I got to thinking...

I don't do any top-end PvE, but don't the flashpoints have one or two "hard" modes, where they get tougher than normal? Given that, I wonder, once you've geared up some in PvE, do you go back and do the FP in "easy" mode because now you can faceroll them that way? It seems to me this idea "that my gear has earned me the right to faceroll noobs" is along the same lines as going back and doing easy mode PvE once you've geared up. I believe, in PvE, the point of gearing up is so that you can now compete in the harder FP, right? So wouldn't that argue, if you wanted an analogy between PvE and PvP, that there would be "gear brackets" in PvP - and earning better PvP gear would allow you to now compete in the "higher gear" PvP bracket?

That's all just a theoretical exercise on my part though. I don't really care one way or another about gear to argue it strongly. I like facerolling people once in a while just as much as the next guy. I dislike getting stomped probably just as much as the next guy. I was full EWH in 1.7 with my main, and I knew I wasn't good enough for uber gear to help me when I had to 1v1 any skilled PvP person anyway - so I called for help in chat.
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Banderal
04.18.2013 , 04:48 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by rhakoth View Post
I would like to see these guys in real life be stuck naked in a ring weaponless while someone walks in wearing full plate and is mentally retarded yet still wails on them.
But if they had the naked bolster going for them...
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SystemProcess
04.18.2013 , 04:51 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Banderal View Post
But if they had the naked bolster going for them...
Oh the things we could do with naked bolster IRL...
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Ycoga
04.18.2013 , 04:58 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by BalphoWan View Post
Those posts usually praise the attempt to eliminate the gap between a fully BIS geared PVP player and a fresh 55 with little to no PVP gear. Many of those that have taken that position often flame PVP players for wanting to roflstomp fresh level 55 players. I find myself feeling ashamed that I enjoy doing that. And this has started to bother me.
You could've been a little more introspective before the massive changes to bolster; and then you would be more at home with the changes.
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Banderal
04.18.2013 , 05:35 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by SystemProcess View Post
Oh the things we could do with naked bolster IRL...
This is a bit crude I guess, but isn't Viagra naked bolster?
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SystemProcess
04.18.2013 , 05:36 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Banderal View Post
This is a bit crude I guess, but isn't Viagra naked bolster?
Blatant sexism! I will not stand for such shenanigans.
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Helig
04.18.2013 , 05:43 AM | #69
OP is a duck. Facerolling fresh 55s isn't all that far off from repeatedly ganking lower-level people in open world (you put more effort into levelling, lulz).

Bored of the game? Take a break, simple as that.
"I'm not *giving* him cake, I'm *assaulting* him with cake!" - Pinkamena Diane Pie

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ArchangelLBC
04.18.2013 , 07:32 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by BalphoWan View Post
You are sorely misunderstanding me. I never said nor do I want others to get facerolled. I said that I enjoy when it happens sometimes, and I don't think I should be ashamed of enjoying it. I also explicitly said in a later post that I do not seek out lesser geared and/or lesser skilled players. If I did, I would have griefed players during the Gree open world PVP event on Ilum. That is something very different from your accusation. I choose targets in a WZ based on strategy in that particular WZ. I enjoy a fight on an even playing field, much more than when I faceroll a lesser geared/skilled player. But why can I not enjoy both, especiially when I do not seek out the latter?? Why can't I enjoy the fact that it took me a lot of time and effort to be able to get to a point where I can do that?? Is that so bad?? If it is, then I am guilty as charged.

And by your logic, I can enjoy facerolling someone if I am more skilled than them, but not if it iis because I am more geared. Why?? Both take time and effort to acquire. Whether it is skill or gear that is the reason I facerolled an opponent, neither were given to me. They were earned. So why is one more honorable than the other??

Who said either was honorable? If you enjoy facerolling people you're a bad person. If you don't think people should be facerolled then you shouldn't do it. If you enjoy doing it then you like that people get facerolled ergo you are a bad person.

You can look at where your time and effort have gotten you, and be appreciative of that, but you should want to take that skill into an environment where it can actually shine. Facerolling bads is what people who say they have skill do when all they have is mediocrity and a big ego.

TL;DR No one said it was better, you're still a bad person. I don't have to read the rest of your idiotic drek.
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