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Guide to Bioware Logic in PvP

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Guide to Bioware Logic in PvP

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Devlonir
04.22.2013 , 01:40 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Kenjigreat View Post
The real problem of Patch 1.7 was the when they removed Battlemaster from the equation instead of Recruit gear when they introduced Elite War Hero, they created a gap Resulting in

Elite War Hero(Veterans) > War Hero >>>> Recruit(Newbies)

when they should have thrown Recruit gear out the window and give everyone free Battlemaster and made it
Elite War Hero > War Hero > BattleMaster.

Do Everyone a favor and remove Bolster from Level 55 PvP.
The problem with this suggestion, is F2P players.

You talk about reading Dev posts, but you clearly missed the one explaining why Recruit MK3 wouldnt have solved PVP disparity around 1.7. Battlemaster is purple gear, and a Recruit set on Battlemaster level would be well beyond what blue gear allows to have at those item levels, and therefore make Recruit MK3 by far the only gear set F2P players will ever need to do anything (and therefore remove the need for them to unlock purple gear, and through that hurt Bioware's income).

This would repeat itself again after a new level cap and a new second set of PVP gear. And to avoid repeating the same mistakes and avoiding the same limitations of the past, they made a system where everyone, even F2P players, will have a certain level of efficiency in a warzone.

Because really.. who wants to go into a warzone with even one undergeared player? That was one of the most common complaints pre 1.7. And that problem no longer exists thanks to Bolster.

Is the system perfect? Heck no! But it sure is better than what we had, with less limitations.
"Cows go 'Moo', Dogs go 'Woof', MMO Players go 'The PVP is unbalanced!" - Yahthzee
"I'm starting to get the feeling that BW and their MMO are not the dysfunctional ones." - Rafaman

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Devlonir
04.22.2013 , 01:45 AM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by sanchito View Post
They don't even have to hand out actual pieces, just bolster every non partisan or conqueror piece to exactly this level, be it underworld or questing green
And this indeed.. This would completely fix Bolster.

They said now they can see what PVP gear is because there are only 2 PVP sets left. Identify all items with Expertise as PVP gear and don't touch their stats. Every other slot just needs to be given the exact number of stats as just below Partisan would have, regardless of actual stats on the item (maybe only check if it's a end or main stat heavy item, and which secondary stats there are), and make that entry level PVP.

Though they haven't said it specifically yet, it does seem they may be going that way now that they removed EXP from War Hero gear. So, let's see what is actually going to be announced for the patch of tomorrow.
"Cows go 'Moo', Dogs go 'Woof', MMO Players go 'The PVP is unbalanced!" - Yahthzee
"I'm starting to get the feeling that BW and their MMO are not the dysfunctional ones." - Rafaman

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Kenjigreat
04.22.2013 , 03:51 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Devlonir View Post
The problem with this suggestion, is F2P players.

You talk about reading Dev posts, but you clearly missed the one explaining why Recruit MK3 wouldnt have solved PVP disparity around 1.7. Battlemaster is purple gear, and a Recruit set on Battlemaster level would be well beyond what blue gear allows to have at those item levels, and therefore make Recruit MK3 by far the only gear set F2P players will ever need to do anything (and therefore remove the need for them to unlock purple gear, and through that hurt Bioware's income).

This would repeat itself again after a new level cap and a new second set of PVP gear. And to avoid repeating the same mistakes and avoiding the same limitations of the past, they made a system where everyone, even F2P players, will have a certain level of efficiency in a warzone.

Because really.. who wants to go into a warzone with even one undergeared player? That was one of the most common complaints pre 1.7. And that problem no longer exists thanks to Bolster.

Is the system perfect? Heck no! But it sure is better than what we had, with less limitations.

-_- F2Pers are only allowed to PvP on a very limited basis , they could have made Recruit Mk-3(BM) Blue. And don't lie to yourself , Gear Disparity still exist thanks to PvErs doing removal enhancement glitches and people having 22k hp vs a PvEr with 30+k hp as a dps , the only exception is the gear disparity is created by glitching the system not working for gear and yea thats something awesome to promote right , Glitchers.

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dannycarr
04.22.2013 , 04:01 AM | #94
Its all well and good giving people the free gear, but the amount of people that wouldn't wear it pre 2.0 was stupid. At least with bolster everyone in the WZ has decent enough stats to compete, without relying on the noob players having to think about wearing specific pvp gear.

I always used to /w people pre 2.0 who were in questing greens or pve gear, and all I got back is abuse. At least now I don't have to worry about peoples gear in a WZ which would put us on the back foot from the offset.

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Kenjigreat
04.23.2013 , 05:28 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by dannycarr View Post
Its all well and good giving people the free gear, but the amount of people that wouldn't wear it pre 2.0 was stupid. At least with bolster everyone in the WZ has decent enough stats to compete, without relying on the noob players having to think about wearing specific pvp gear.

I always used to /w people pre 2.0 who were in questing greens or pve gear, and all I got back is abuse. At least now I don't have to worry about peoples gear in a WZ which would put us on the back foot from the offset.
So we are encouraging people to act retarded . Nice.

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AlrikFassbauer
04.23.2013 , 07:35 AM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by KettleBelll View Post
People weren't smart enough to even get Recruit, let alone put it on.
Some even sold it.
Other threw it away, because it didn't give them any benefit in PvE.