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TheTenken
04.16.2013 , 02:59 PM | #1001
wow they ruined our ewh gear good job... and the death of open world pvp is now.

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SystemProcess
04.16.2013 , 02:59 PM | #1002
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
I just wanted to let all of you know that I have been reading over the thread and am continually passing the feedback and questions on to the combat team. Some of the confusion I am seeing is around the removal of Expertise from WH/EWH and its relation to PvE gear. I am working with those guys on getting some math around it all to hopefully clear some things up.

I won't have any new information today, I just wanted you folks to be aware that I am actively watching the thread and working with the Combat/PvP folks on getting answers to some of your questions.

Thanks!

-eric

PS - If you haven't read some of our prior PvP posts in this thread and others it is possible your questions were answered there. You can view them here, here, and here.
Thanks for sorting through and picking the gems out of 100 pages of nonsense, eric. Hopefully we get an answer soon!
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AMKSED
04.16.2013 , 03:00 PM | #1003
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
I just wanted to let all of you know that I have been reading over the thread and am continually passing the feedback and questions on to the combat team. Some of the confusion I am seeing is around the removal of Expertise from WH/EWH and its relation to PvE gear. I am working with those guys on getting some math around it all to hopefully clear some things up.

I won't have any new information today, I just wanted you folks to be aware that I am actively watching the thread and working with the Combat/PvP folks on getting answers to some of your questions.

Thanks!

-eric

PS - If you haven't read some of our prior PvP posts in this thread and others it is possible your questions were answered there. You can view them here, here, and here.
I have a 58 armoring mod that has 25 expertise in my WH gear. I know I can just switch the mod out but I'm currently not 55 and no longer have access to WH/EWH purchases. But because of that 25 expertise I lost nearly 400-500 expertise when I go into Warzones.

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Yeochins
04.16.2013 , 03:03 PM | #1004
Quote: Originally Posted by Kovaos View Post
No. Just no. The cap is raised and new gear should be the goal now. Your EWH will and should be outdated. The same applies for PvEers. They need to grind a new set as well.
Outdated yes, but to be outdated against no gear at all seemed very retarded.

And to be subpar in comparison to PvE gear is another instance of developer stupidity at its finest. What you have is the following analogy:

You need to PvP to have the better raid gear than the best raid gear.

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RyanReagan
04.16.2013 , 03:12 PM | #1005
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
I just wanted to let all of you know that I have been reading over the thread and am continually passing the feedback and questions on to the combat team. Some of the confusion I am seeing is around the removal of Expertise from WH/EWH and its relation to PvE gear. I am working with those guys on getting some math around it all to hopefully clear some things up.

I won't have any new information today, I just wanted you folks to be aware that I am actively watching the thread and working with the Combat/PvP folks on getting answers to some of your questions.

Thanks!

-eric

PS - If you haven't read some of our prior PvP posts in this thread and others it is possible your questions were answered there. You can view them here, here, and here.

Now to the point where I have to login and ask what the new "tricks" are for the bolster system before I start to PvP each day. And if I die in a battle that seems one-sided I have to wonder if that dude is doing something funky to get an advantage, if it is straight up class imbalance, if he got a relic double-proc or what....
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Pokebreaker
04.16.2013 , 03:20 PM | #1006
My biggest issue is with the removal of Expertise, and it's effect on Open World PvP. Yes, I like the WZ grind, and don't mind having the playing fields leveled SOLELY due to this being a low population game. Honestly, t's the only way to keep the PvP population entertained, because if the brackets were a 10 level spread, the queues wouldn't be very active at certain levels. Got it. But now it seems that the pre-55 PvP gear, although much more easily acquired than PvE; is essentially PvE gear for those using it out of WZs. I am very rarely one that complains about changes, because they are often fairly minor, and are common among mmorpgs. However, changes that render my previous invested time useless, are extremely discouraging. I like to have a slight advantage (that I worked for) when conducting open-world PvP against a target that is decked out in end-game PvE gear (that they worked for). Different applications of gear, but only one has been rendered less effective. Skill is irreplaceable, but better primary stats can still make a huge difference.

The quick answer is to just grind for the level 55 PvP gear to get the Expertise back. HOWEVER, I am skeptical about wasting time with that, if the current answers to my invested time is to have the rewards nullified in updates.

WZ equality I am in disagreeance with, but more ok with. Open World equality, I am not, because Expertise is the only advantage I have against the larger end-game PvE base of players that roam the world. Both parties worked hard for the gear advantage they have/had, yet only one is getting screwed.

Vent complete.

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Khalhazar
04.16.2013 , 03:31 PM | #1007
Quote: Originally Posted by RyanReagan View Post
Now to the point where I have to login and ask what the new "tricks" are for the bolster system before I start to PvP each day. And if I die in a battle that seems one-sided I have to wonder if that dude is doing something funky to get an advantage, if it is straight up class imbalance, if he got a relic double-proc or what....
This is a big concern for me, as well. If we can't trust that the system works, how can we properly gear ourselves?
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Twin
04.16.2013 , 03:32 PM | #1008
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
I just wanted to let all of you know that I have been reading over the thread and am continually passing the feedback and questions on to the combat team. Some of the confusion I am seeing is around the removal of Expertise from WH/EWH and its relation to PvE gear. I am working with those guys on getting some math around it all to hopefully clear some things up.

I won't have any new information today, I just wanted you folks to be aware that I am actively watching the thread and working with the Combat/PvP folks on getting answers to some of your questions.

Thanks!

-eric
Do you really need to ask around if anyone thought about open world pvp before they ripped out expertise from our gear?
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Boch
04.16.2013 , 03:35 PM | #1009
Quote: Originally Posted by JiggerDo View Post
So your answer is to remove the advantage i spent hundreds of hours working to have over scrubs with no/lesser gear?
Well i wont be paying you anymore if your are just going to socialize/obamatize pvp. Consider this sub cancelled.

You have till the end of the month to put back the advantage of working for gear. I dont play this game to be 'equal'. I play, and work, for many many hours to have better gear that gives me an advantage, and if you think im going to start that grind all over again with new pvp gear, with no regard for all the work i have put into me EWH set, you are mistaken.

Get your head out of your *** biuoware!
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Omophorus
04.16.2013 , 03:44 PM | #1010
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin View Post
Do you really need to ask around if anyone thought about open world pvp before they ripped out expertise from our gear?
And all 10 people who care seriously about open world PVP and didn't quit a year ago when Ilum failed are up in arms today!

No, they didn't think about it because the worlds are designed to separate factions during leveling and there's no viable open world PVP at cap unless you instigate it yourself.
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