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Question for focus PvP Guardians *WARNING* math may be included

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Question for focus PvP Guardians *WARNING* math may be included

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Darknsith
03.27.2013 , 12:15 PM | #1
Once again I find myself looking to the guardian/jugernaut gurus for some slotting advice. After looking on noxxic and torhead, to get my build right as well as some google searches I came up with this.

http://www.swtor.com/de/community/sh...d.php?t=482828

I was brought up and taught that crit is "fairly irrellevent" because our main atack is auto crit anyhow. That's cool and all but hen I came to that and read it, thinking that yes---critting on the other force attacks is equally important. So I started regrinding and getting some crit/surge and a couple crit/acc enhances to lower my obscenely high surge (at the time it was 79.61%) to help raise my critical numbers. This is what I have so far


http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/v..._21_429553.jpg

http://s672.photobucket.com/user/Dar...tml?sort=3&o=0

What I was wondering is....is what I'm doing not a good idea? should I still disregard crit and stick with the extra power numbers without dipping into crit/surge and crit/accuracy enhances. I still have my surge rating too hih from what I've been told, but I don't know how to lower it without taking away from my power. Please help. TY

EDIT: Also forgot to mention this is in regards to PvP Focus spec'd DPS.
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Ovan_Oh-One
03.27.2013 , 01:27 PM | #2
I usually spec Vengeance, but this how I itemize (works for Focus as well.)

Try this out: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/characte...c-1464d7d1b46d

I wouldn't disagree with having a bit of critical for Focus even if you're main attack is an autocrit. You can still have Ravage crit, Force Crush, Vicious Throw, Force Scream (insane burst if it crits, especially since it's free after a Force Charge / Oblierate if you take Battle Cry, which you should.)


Feel free to correct any mistakes I may have made in itemization. :P
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Darknsith
03.27.2013 , 01:48 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Ovan_Oh-One View Post
I usually spec Vengeance, but this how I itemize (works for Focus as well.)

Try this out: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/characte...c-1464d7d1b46d

I wouldn't disagree with having a bit of critical for Focus even if you're main attack is an autocrit. You can still have Ravage crit, Force Crush, Vicious Throw, Force Scream (insane burst if it crits, especially since it's free after a Force Charge / Oblierate if you take Battle Cry, which you should.)


Feel free to correct any mistakes I may have made in itemization. :P
ok sounds good...im sitting on about 29.4% melee crit chance with buff----36.2% force crit chance, So I assume I'm good there

Now I just need to lower my insanely high surge. Was blindly stacking power/surge enhancements not even realizing I was well above the cap (437). Time to grind for acc/power PvP enhances
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steave
03.30.2013 , 08:53 PM | #4
Well, remember that was written a LONG time and a few gear tiers ago, so the exact values are no longer accurate. Surge only competes with accuraccy, and other than tanks, the highest defense you'll see is 7% (well, and sorcs/sincs with 10%, but...) so there's not really any point in stacking more than 6% extra accuraccy (for a total of 7% with the legacy bonus taken into account) and just pump the rest into surge. The suggested crit value sounds too hight to me though - on my PT, I found that 220-260 crit gave the highest sustained DPS, and that's with no auto crit. That auto crit does make crit rating less important, even if it doesn't make it useless, so I would stop a little earlier than that.

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Mordarion
04.22.2013 , 12:33 AM | #5
So my question is what are good values for Strength, power, Acc, Crit, and Surge now... ?

Like others I am sure I have been scouring the web and for focus PvP Guards there is not as much clear info as I would llike. Thank you in adavance.
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Mordarion
05.01.2013 , 08:41 AM | #6
Bumping this thread as well and basically with the same info as I am desperate for some more insight...

I am an old player from launch and back for 2.0. I am trying to min/max gear to optimize my stats. The one site I can find clarifying some diminishing returns is this...

http://www.jedilace.com/category/attributes/

My question is simple, is this up to date? Accoring to this site you can not stack more than 80% Surge.

I have 88.53% Surge... .

So this is where I am asking for your help. Educate me and help my prioritize and balance my stats for my PvP Focus Guard. All stats are buffed and stimmed.

Strength:............ 2866
Expertise:........... 2018 (this gives me 60% damage bonus)

Damage:............1217-1429
Bonus Damage:.794.3
Accuracy:.......... 92.85%
Critical:.............19.57%
Surge:.............. 88.53%

Thank you in advance... /bow.
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