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Who cares about 'play-style' if the ping and the overall service sucks?

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Who cares about 'play-style' if the ping and the overall service sucks?
 

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oscarlol
03.25.2013 , 08:52 PM | #1
Dear Bioware,

I am finding it increasingly difficult to believe that 'play-style' was one of your primary reasons for not merging all of the Oceanic servers in to one cluster as per the statement below:

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1. The issue in doing this is that two play-styles (PvE, PvE-RP, or PvP) would need to sacrifice their desired play-style in order to have one server with a higher population. We feel that it is important that each player is allowed to continue to play SWTOR in their preferred play-style.
Let's face it, it doesn't matter if i'm killing mobs, or other players - if my quality of response in my input time sucks and my frame rate is dropping due to server lag in highly populated areas then i'm not going to enjoy any mode of play in this game.

Your second reason on top of this is even more baffling:

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Therefore, accommodating all the existing play-styles was a primary goal. By allowing you to move to a NA West server, you will be able to keep your play-style.
Maybe so, but i'm pretty sure here on Dalborra most of us are very into PvP and or the occasional chat fun with our mates regardless of the environment. You guys are dictating that because the server was intended for these purposes, this then justifies the move - but if you were even moderately in touch with the communities , or even talked to real people you would see that isn't what any of the servers are used for.

On top of all of this, you actually must think we're complete idiots and that we buy 'blanket statements' that only large companies can spin, I know this too well having consulted for many large organisations over the years:

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2. The move to North American servers better delivers on our ultimate goal of providing the best play experience, with the most possible players, long term.
Please really? Do you think the countless numbers who literally unsubscribed from their favorite MMOs just to come and play on a low-ping, oceanic service give any craps about your 'ultimate goal' ? We play, we have fun, we enjoy. That's the common mindset, and I am pretty sure if i canvassed the general server population in any means as to whether they were aware of what your ultimate goal is, then I think they wouldn't have the faintest.

You're not winning any loyalty in this,and you've missed a golden opportunity to extend the popularity in Oceanic regions. You've also forgotten how communities naturally grow - by having fun, and friends telling other friends. That concept transcends any of Bioware's 'Ultimate Goals' or 'intended playstyles'.

Dalborra is by no means the largest realm, but we are a tigh-knit community who love the game and the current services provided. Don't tell us rubbish results from your so called polls, go visit general chat on the fleets and look at how annoyed people are about this.

You've made a mistake Bioware and that'll show by me and other people unsubscribing soon enough, irrespective of your expansion.

Just have the balls to say you're cutting costs Bioware, Australia's average education rate per capita is one of the highest in the world, we aren't idiots - at least give us real reasons instead of this rubbish spin. If you really gave a crap about our play experience you would just merge our servers together.

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aVmuse
03.25.2013 , 09:05 PM | #2
Well you can blame GD for this crap.

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Aurojiin
03.25.2013 , 09:15 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by aVmuse View Post
Well you can blame MDN and GD for this crap.
Unfair to blame MDN: I can't imagine the majority of players there ever expected the "solution" would be to simply stick it to the APAC playerbase.

The GD on the other hand... well, they're screwed themselves anyway by forfeiting most of their character names. Oh karma.

Really, though, we can blame EA's adherence to the bottom line over consumer loyalty and goodwill.
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aVmuse
03.25.2013 , 09:35 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurojiin View Post
Unfair to blame MDN: I can't imagine the majority of players there ever expected the "solution" would be to simply stick it to the APAC playerbase.

The GD on the other hand... well, they're screwed themselves anyway by forfeiting most of their character names. Oh karma.

Really, though, we can blame EA's adherence to the bottom line over consumer loyalty and goodwill.
Yea that was a bit harsh on MDN, I'll change it.

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iSythe
03.25.2013 , 09:37 PM | #5
Its definitely not on MDN for this **** up. Anyone who plays enough on the server wants a merge. This game doesn't even do open world pvp properly, so the difference between pvp and pve is so miniscule that noone would even notice a thing if all pvp servers were all just changed to a pve server one day.
This is just excuses coming out of bioware/EA's arse and the can go **** themselves because of it.

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Fknsatsu
03.25.2013 , 09:44 PM | #6
Bioware: The APAC players are crying out for bread...

EA: Let them eat cake
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Pexalottle
03.25.2013 , 09:53 PM | #7
On MDN we get 1 maybe 2 warzones going at a time each night. Nothing until about 1pm. Believe me, we wanted the merge.

In regards to play style, I rolled on a pvp server to do PvE content. (Omg ***!?) only because I figured having world pvp while I leveled seemed like a good idea but like most of us have said, world pvp is dead.
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Dafydil
03.25.2013 , 10:10 PM | #8
APAC merge would have been lovely but I don't mind this either correct me if im wrong but I think most of the people crying about this didn't play before March last year lol.
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Highborne
03.25.2013 , 10:25 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Dafydil View Post
APAC merge would have been lovely but I don't mind this either correct me if im wrong but I think most of the people crying about this didn't play before March last year lol.
Shall I display my "Founder" title?

I've been playing since BEFORE launch, as have two of my friends who are ALSO unsubbing over having to go back to uncompetititve, high-lag situations.

High latency kills the gameplay, and this is only going to be more true for a game that is so focused on the immersion and roleplay experience within a character.

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Thebetts
03.25.2013 , 10:31 PM | #10
If you guys want to complain about latency, I challenge you to go roll a toon on Harbinger and play for an hour, you'll notice that your latency sits at around 120-140, and if you notice any difference, then kudos to you, because I haven't noticed anything even mildly game disrupting.

If you have/do, and you still have problems, then yeah, feel free to complain, however, I'm in a ruralish area of Queensland, in Australia, and I am having absolutely no issues at all on the toon I rolled to test the server out.

While I do, DEFINITELY agree, that they should scrap this whole merge, and just merge the three APAC servers instead, I'm going to be one of the Dalborran players who shelves my complaining and continues to enjoy the game.

Call me an idiot, call me blind, call me whatever the hell you want, all I'm saying is, try it out before you just psyche out and rage-quit over an issue this small.