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State of the Game #3

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03.21.2013 , 12:49 PM | #201
Mr. Hickman is right. SWTOR is a better game now and all servers (at least North American) are in a very healthy state. BW's effort late last year was a step in the right direction.

However, I am not very excited about Makeb and 2.0, and the expansion seems to be taking things backward (not even sideways). I pre-purchased Makeb on day one when it became available, but since 2.0 hit the PTS I have felt nothing but disappointment and malaise in regard to what's coming in that expansion.

I primarily PvP and Makeb includes nothing for me as a player in that regard. While I appreciate that this is a PvE game first, one would figure that an expansion would include something significant for all aspects of gameplay; PvE, PvP, Crafting, Space. The only portion of this game receiving any real attention is PvE in the form of leveling, FPs and Ops.

I would have been happy receiving just one more WZ. Instead we will be getting a broken Bolster mechanic (not one iteration of the mechanic has worked correctly on the PTS), some terrible class rebalancing, and a new gear grind that won't even be necessary with the implementation of the Bolster mechanic.

While I appreciate that "quality of life" in game needs to be improved, changes of that nature don't get me jazzed. In fact, I feel even more disappointment that there is nothing on the plate for PvP in the future beyond xpac release based on the State of the Game comments.

Now while I primarily PvP, I also do a great deal of PvE. I have 10 Alts and 6 50s with all of my Alts capped out in crafting. I only have two stories left to experience and already have Alts that I'm leveling for that purpose. I have also done HM EV, KP, Denova and Asation to experience that content. So I PvE for the story, but will be done with all of the stories once I hit 50 on my remaining alts. Since Makeb does not provide any extension of class stories, I can pretty much guarantee that I will only be taking three of my toons to 55, my two Imp mains that run RWZ PvP and one of my Pub 50s (just to experience that faction's story).

I really love the fact that SWTOR managed to turn things around last year. I am also happy that you guys are making a ton of money through the Cartel Market. I have no misgivings or ill feelings toward the CM since my experience has benefitted greatly since its implementation. I have even purchased some of the Legacy unlocks with my Cartel Coins and find them quite useful, along with some of the Cargo Bay and Inventory Module Account-wide unlocks.

I was an EGA player and have been paying a monthly sub since the launch of this game. I'm not threatening to leave the game or anything, just providing some feedback on what I'm seeing as the state of the game for the very near future based on what has been on the PTS for Makeb. I want to play this game for years. I want to keep giving BW my money in those years to come. However, I just don't see anything upcoming that's going to keep me engaged given my preferences and playstyle for longer than a month or two. Maybe I'm missing something.
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03.21.2013 , 12:50 PM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by aeterno View Post
Might wanna pick an example that doesn't hold the industry record for shutting down fastest heh.
It's still going. It simply went F2P quickly...kinda like another game you might know.
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03.21.2013 , 01:01 PM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by Polymerize View Post
Uh, hello.

I want my *********** character transfer option. Not this dumb **** of an update.

Apparently SWTOR has enough idiots to appeal to so they get away with this kind of garbage instead of really improving the state of their game.
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03.21.2013 , 01:09 PM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by Dregamoore View Post
im not saying that what im saying is dont try and tkae more and more and more money but give us little to nothing back ur already taking my sub money what else do u need
You have to look at this way. Your sub money is for x content, which I thought BioWare spelled out pretty well when they established what sub accounts get vs. F2P. Unless they are in some way violating that or maybe if you were sub account and you still had to buy something on the cartel market that was either required for you to prorgress or made it easier, you have NOTHING valid to complain about. If you don't like what your monthly payment provides you, take it somewhere else.

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03.21.2013 , 01:15 PM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by BlueArab View Post
From what it looks like, anything that does not include improving gear (for now, at least) will cost cartel coins. Won't be long before gear ends up in there too.
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03.21.2013 , 01:15 PM | #206
Didn't see any mention about gender change in the customization feature - is that part of it? The list seemed exhaustive.

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03.21.2013 , 01:20 PM | #207
So what he's basically saying is that they're extending content updates from 6 to 8 weeks after Makeb.
That the first one will be quality of life, bug fixes and a barbershop.
No mention of future ops, flashpoints, warzones.

So basically to sum up the game launched badly and they've spun out all the stuff they had prepped into updates 1.1 to 2.0. Since it was a bad launch they lost a lot of people, diverted remaining resources into creating a free to play model including the cartel market to basically save the game. But that used up all there remaining resources so they don't have any real future content after Makeb.

The earliest we can expect to see actual new playable content post Makeb will be 16weeks+ so maybe August unless both 2.1 and 2.2 turn out to be quality of life (fluff) patches in which case October?

The only upside is that FTP seems to be a sucess so once the content drought is over they've no excuse really to not produce regular quality playable content from October onwards, This assumes the game gets strong backing from the powers that be.

Fair assesment or too harsh/leniant?

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03.21.2013 , 01:23 PM | #208
As a subber I'm becoming very dissapointed with where your guys are going to with the cartel market. I played this game called Perfect World International and it was a f2p cash shop game. They drained so much money from the players for crap like fashion, packs etc. Now swtor is bringing all this cash shop stuff which would be ok if it was a f2p game. But I'm a subber why the hell should I be forced to access this stuff by purchases from the cash shop? What the hell is the point then in being a subber?

I love this game, and I enjoy it but you guys are heading in the wrong direction. If you want to keep your sub base try using some common sense.... seriously...

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03.21.2013 , 01:24 PM | #209
Fix more bugs,create more warzones , more flashpoints and operations.And make them hard but doable.This is the key.

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03.21.2013 , 01:25 PM | #210
I am already pretty sure I will be disappointed on how BioWare will do the barbershop, they never seem to get anything right.
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