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Revan's Chestplate; any word on a fix?

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Revan's Chestplate; any word on a fix?
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DuckimusPrime
06.26.2013 , 11:53 AM | #671
Quote: Originally Posted by Journeyer View Post
I noticed that your screenshots are of the login screen, and that Revan is not a character available to players on login; this makes side-by-side comparisons a bit tricky.
Why would Revan not being available at the login screen be relevant? The issue isn't that the Cartel Market robes are different to the NPCs robes. The issue is that they're both wrong.

Revan's robes on both the player robes and the NPC have been changed from black to grey. That is the colouring bug, not that the robes are different to the NPC.

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Ulrah
06.26.2013 , 01:26 PM | #672
Quote: Originally Posted by SithEBM View Post
BioWare says many things, but they are usually wrong.

Yes, I am asking for the color to be reverted back to the way it used to be. (AKA: Chest and legs MATCH at all times)
It's a matter of preference, not correctness. They can't be "wrong" in making an armor the color they want it to be. If there isn't a bug present, then you guys are just complaining that it's not the color you want it to be. What about people that prefer the color the way it is atm? Should we start having votes on what color every piece of armor in the game should be? (they would all be black)

I am for allowing dyes on lore items. I am for fixing other BUGS (like the double-hood still present on the Investigator's Robe). I am not for BioWare changing the color of items just because a group of players don't like it the way it is. That's the whole point of the dye system.

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Journeyer
06.26.2013 , 03:39 PM | #673
Quote: Originally Posted by wishingwell View Post
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I at least did my best to approach the issue with a skeptical eye. If others would do the same and see if they can make it happen, I'd love to see the results.
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Ahh, thank you for your side-by-side; I hadn't seen it (And thank you for reading my post!). That's quite interesting there, as the difference in tone is much more subtle than the other comparison I'd been looking at, but much more compellingly clear in its differences. (I agree that the last big update to higher res textures and auto-detected gfx settings was 1.5, but given the screenshots I was looking at, it was clearly a comparison between the old medium res textures and the new high res ones; I figured the screenshotter might have recently changed his settings, or had them auto-changed)

The two images are different enough to be distinct, yet similar enough that I still wonder if lighting hasn't made the difference.

Given your post, I'd wonder @ Bioware whether anything changed recently in the way that lighting is handled? Such that the same outfit, under the same lighting as you demonstrated, might give off a bit more light? I *know* that the way in which lighting was handled changed in 1.5, and at that time, we were told "it's joined by some even better improvements in the pipe." Sometime after that, we got dynamic shadows. Is it possible that everything was artificially lightened a bit, for example, to account for the new selective darkness introduced by shadows? Was there something else in that pipe we don't know about? If the colors are numerically the same, can the lighting guys weigh in?
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Magnusheart
06.26.2013 , 05:31 PM | #674
Low, Medium, and High res wouldnt matter.

Black Robes pre 1.6.1
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2lvehc7.jpg

Grey Robes post 1.6.1
http://oi42.tinypic.com/35bxmv9.jpg

The resolution is nearly the same. The pre 1.6.1 picture looks fuzzier because its from a frozen part of a you tube video. It's not a lighting issue, its not a resolution issue. I've had a 1080P desktop powerhouse I got for this game. I know it was changed during that patch, I've *****ed about Revan's Armor bugs before the Phantom and Spymaster fiasco. The Primary color was altered when the armor was changed to accommodate the Revan Mask for body type 3 without clipping issues. of patch 1.6.1

beta-1.6.0 Item screenshot of Revan's set
http://oi48.tinypic.com/dovzi9.jpg

1.6.1-now item screenshot of Revan's set
http://oi39.tinypic.com/2ptorx5.jpg

Why is it so hard, with photos, AND YOUTUBE showing Revan's set Primary was Black before that patch to fix 1. STUPID ARMOR SET? This is stupid and redundant, that it is taking over 6 months to fix 1 armor set, out of the many that are broken in the cartel market.

Revan's Primary Color is still light grey instead of the black it used to be before patch 1.6.1
Investigator's chest has a double hood, hood down shouldn't exist
Pathfinders chest has a double hood, hood down shouldn't exist
Preceptor's Robe has a clipping mesh error for its butt-flap sticks out of the robe part.
Calo Nord's Helmet on most sex/body types has your head sticking out of it.
Calo Nord's Chestpeice has HORRIBLE clipping meshes with the bags on the jacket free fall mesh parts.
Thana Vesh's butt cover robe piece doesn't position properly for MALES.
Trouble Makers Duster has similar buggy appearance above on females.
Relaxed Vestments have a horrible glitch on female bodies under the right breast. http://img2.picload.org/image/awowraa/chestglitch.jpg
Bastila Shan's Brown shoulder parts clip inside on every sex/bodytype doing any animations even walking.


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Now then. Bioware. My endgame. The final 2 pictures alone will 100% PROVE THERE WAS, AND IS A COLOR BUG, AND THE ROBES ARE IN FACT SUPPOSED TO BE A BLACK PRIMARY. But I will be nice enough to show even more then and now comparisons before and now in the patch.

But for those to lazy and wish to skip to the key images to prove they were BLACK and NOT GREY. Look at the spoilers for the shortcut
Spoiler



ITEM COMPARISON SHOWING THE SET WAS BLACK PRIMARY BEFORE 1.6.1


Revan's BLACK Robes before they were bugged to light grey in BETA- pre 1.6.1

http://oi48.tinypic.com/dovzi9.jpg

After 1.6.1's Light Grey Bug to now 2.2.1
http://oi39.tinypic.com/2ptorx5.jpg
SAME LIGHTING, BT and Sex and Class. Different patch times.

The bug affected the entire set, not the top back before 1.6.1 The primary was BLACK. before that patch.



NPC COMPARISON OF REVANS ROBES BEING BLACK BEFORE PATCH 1.6.1


Battle Ready:
Image of Revan in the Foundry PRE 1.6.1 Black Robes.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...inalDuel01.jpg

Image of Revan in the Foundry NOW Post 1.6.1 Light Grey
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2cz57df.jpg


Revan's Redemption Speech:

Image of Revan in the Foundry PRE 1.6.1 Black Robes
http://calreth.files.wordpress.com/2...-24-54-181.jpg
(If image does not work)
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2jzlmv.jpg

Image of Revan in the Foundry NOW Post 1.6.1 Light Grey
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2iibo90.jpg


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ITS NOT A LIGHTING ISSUE, HERE IS ONE IN BRIGHT CLEAR LIGHT. PUB SIDE.

If this one doesn't prove it, I'm going back to World of Warcraft.

From the conclusion quest. "The Jedi Prisoner"

Revan on the Telos after Maelstrom Prison PRE PATCH 1.6.1 BLACK ROBES
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2lvehc7.jpg

Revan on the Telos after Maelstrom Prison NOW POST PATCH 1.6.1 LIGHT GREY
http://oi42.tinypic.com/35bxmv9.jpg

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SithEBM
06.26.2013 , 06:52 PM | #675
EricMusco, we are waiting for a response from your Developer Team.

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stephenalandavie
06.26.2013 , 07:15 PM | #676
Its a piece of Armor, Yes it may need sorting but let them sort the proper bugs out first instead of complaining about something which is purely Cosmetic this is getting very old now

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Magnusheart
06.26.2013 , 07:36 PM | #677
Quote: Originally Posted by stephenalandavie View Post
Its a piece of Armor, Yes it may need sorting but let them sort the proper bugs out first instead of complaining about something which is purely Cosmetic this is getting very old now
Its more than a piece of armor, its an insult to players on how long it takes them to fix simple things, and accurately. And they shrugged off a legitimate bug I have proven with screenshots as a "Not a bug"

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SithEBM
06.26.2013 , 07:58 PM | #678
Quote: Originally Posted by Magnusheart View Post
Its more than a piece of armor, its an insult to players on how long it takes them to fix simple things, and accurately. And they shrugged off a legitimate bug I have proven with screenshots as a "Not a bug"
^ This.

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Genghistwelve
06.26.2013 , 10:46 PM | #679
It's a piece of armor for the main character that originated the series of which this game is based, headlined a highly successful award-winning and critically acclaimed game in his own right, won the fan pole to get an action figure made, has a miniature figurine, a bust, his own novel, and cameos in a comic series also spun-off of his computer game. His action figure goes for crazy prices, his KotoR Campaign Guide RPG book goes for ridiculous prices. And his miniature goes for ridiculous prices.

That's all to say, it's a piece of armor of arguably one of the most popular Star Wars characters of recent times.

You'd think of all the things they could possibly screw up, Revan's KotR armor would not be one of them.

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noobzor
06.27.2013 , 02:18 AM | #680
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Quote: Originally Posted by Magnusheart View Post
THATS NOT THE CASE. LOOK.

Revan's BLACK Robes before they were bugged to light grey in BETA- pre 1.6.1

http://oi48.tinypic.com/dovzi9.jpg

After 1.6.1's Light Grey Bug to now 2.2.1
http://oi39.tinypic.com/2ptorx5.jpg
SAME LIGHTING, BT and Sex and Class. Different patch times.

The bug affected the entire set, not the top back before 1.6.1 The primary was BLACK. before that patch. Not to be a jerk, Eric, but pictures are worth a thousand words and I took several.
Between the two pictures linked, there is clearly a difference in the brightness and/or contrast settings. You can see this easily by looking at the lights on the ceiling behind the character.