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funkiestj
03.18.2013 , 03:49 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols-GS View Post
Only thing I want to see is a reply from a CS person on whether this is evenbeing considered or not.

Plenty of threads asking for this, but not much in the way of replies.

I'll PM Eric this thread, see if he can't help with anything.
5 will get you 10 the answer is "wait and see" (i.e. no real answer).

My prediction is "no cross server queues, character copy used for PvP season 1 playoffs".

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Pistols-GS
03.18.2013 , 03:57 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by funkiestj View Post
5 will get you 10 the answer is "wait and see" (i.e. no real answer).

My prediction is "no cross server queues, character copy used for PvP season 1 playoffs".
Yeah that wouldn't be a stretch of the imaginiation for sure. Although if we're making predictions, my guess is they will eventually open up "paid transfers", and Ranked teams/players will simply pay_fee/migrate to the server with the most competent action. It would be easier for EA to make money on players moving themselves accordingly, then them giving cross-server routes for free. I could be wrong though, just speculation really.
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03.18.2013 , 04:02 PM | #13
Ofc we need it. There is not simply enough ppl on single server to offer real competive rwz.

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Vratza
03.18.2013 , 04:05 PM | #14
Im down for X rated Servers

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cashogy_reborn
03.18.2013 , 04:10 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by tonooo View Post
Ofc we need it. There is not simply enough ppl on single server to offer real competive rwz.
it could be argued that there is not enough people in the whole game to represent a competitive environment.

you would inevitably see a regression to the same situation we have now; only the best teams would queue, and all others would eventually be discouraged from losing to those teams so often and would stop queuing.
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03.18.2013 , 04:26 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
it could be argued that there is not enough people in the whole game to represent a competitive environment.

you would inevitably see a regression to the same situation we have now; only the best teams would queue, and all others would eventually be discouraged from losing to those teams so often and would stop queuing.
I agree with this because of biowares failed match making system. I mean if 4 teams are queuing up 2 of them are rated 2400+ the other 2 teams are rated 1500 or worst. You would think the 2 2400+ teams would play each other but nope they pit one of the 1500 rated teams against 1 of the 2400+ ranked teams. And even if there were more teams queing this would probably still happen all the time.

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Pistols-GS
03.18.2013 , 04:32 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
it could be argued that there is not enough people in the whole game to represent a competitive environment.

you would inevitably see a regression to the same situation we have now; only the best teams would queue, and all others would eventually be discouraged from losing to those teams so often and would stop queuing.
This could be somewhat circumvented if we had a working ladder system though.
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03.18.2013 , 04:54 PM | #18
You tell em, badworld.
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Rynis
03.18.2013 , 04:59 PM | #19
Honestly just a glimmer of hope for cross server rateds would be amazing. A handful of teams on a server won't hold the pvpers for very long.
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funkiestj
03.18.2013 , 05:15 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
it could be argued that there is not enough people in the whole game to represent a competitive environment.

you would inevitably see a regression to the same situation we have now; only the best teams would queue, and all others would eventually be discouraged from losing to those teams so often and would stop queuing.
This is a characteristic of the match making system. Today, if an 800 rated team and a 2000 rated team are the only teams queuing, they get paired, wasting the time of both. Repeat 5 times and now the 800 team is rated 795. WOOT! Lets match them against one another AGAIN!

If we only changed the current system so that a team queuing for RWZ could specify "only match me against an opposing team that is +/- <x> rating difference from my team". If you want to play anyone, you can specify <x> = 999999999999. With this feature, weak teams might get 8 really weak teams queuing rateds. In the long run this sort of thing will make the rated scene much more healthy.

It goes without saying that BW never planned for RWZ preseason to be the final product. They should know by now that the system as is does not foster a healthy RWZ community.

Other things that would be awesome, in addition to the above feature:
  • queue for RWZ with toon A while playing PvE with toon B.
  • the above but with 4-man premade doing an FP. After finishing a WZ, you are put back in the FP where you left off.
  • same as above but with operations and 8-man

The above features would allow many folks to do other interesting things while waiting for the longer queue time that will result from stricter match scheduling. Of course it would be awesome to be able to level an alt while waiting for 50 WZ queue to pop.

the other awesome feature I'm always touting is 8v8 challenge match. Who's A-Team has the biggest epeen: Synergy or MVP? Whip them out in a challenge match! Want to practice against a known team? Arrange a challenge match.

Of course we will almost certainly not see any changes along these lines (or season 1) until after Makeb is rolled out. BW says they still plan to do Season 1 but they won't commit to a date or comment on exactly what their plans are. It is what it is.

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