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tronot
03.24.2013 , 06:55 PM | #801
Something I have always wondered and one reason why I never need for companions. I have no idea what my companions are wearing. Do you people memorize it? I didn't think so. So, how, in good conscience, can you need for your companion when you don't even KNOW if it's an upgrade? You're basically guessing unless you have their gear and stats written down.

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Ratajack
03.24.2013 , 07:05 PM | #802
Quote: Originally Posted by tronot View Post
Something I have always wondered and one reason why I never need for companions. I have no idea what my companions are wearing. Do you people memorize it? I didn't think so. So, how, in good conscience, can you need for your companion when you don't even KNOW if it's an upgrade? You're basically guessing unless you have their gear and stats written down.
I cannot speak for others, but I usually have at least a general idea of what would be an upgrade for my companion. I usually outfit my companions in a full set of orange custom gear. I usually upgrade my character's mods about every 4-6 levels and will also outfit my most used companion at that same time, if possible. I then pass down the mods that get replaced in my character's gear and my companion's gear to other companions if I have any that use the same stats. So if it would be an upgrade for my character if the stats were correct, it would almost certainly be an upgrade for my companion who uses that primary stat. I won't say that it will always be an upgrade for my companion, but I have never been in a situation where it wouldn't be an upgrade for my companion if it would be an upgrade for my character with the correct primary stat.

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Jonrobbie
03.24.2013 , 11:55 PM | #803
Quote: Originally Posted by t-woodhouse View Post
say whatever you like point is people will soon get tired of your ******** and you'll be on many ignore lists, so as many others have said enjoy solo play

well judging from my experience of putting this so called unwritten rule into practice I can see theres absolutely no truth to it at all!
This jedi not only took a loot item for his healer companion. but the other 2 players congratulated him for it.
Clearly this unwritten rule this either NOT known to all, or the overwhelming majority resides mainly on the forums

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Jonrobbie
03.24.2013 , 11:59 PM | #804
Quote: Originally Posted by WildbloodX View Post
lol, I know this is going to be a troll post, but I can't help to see this guy as one of those who would be raiding your store or home in the event of an apocalypse! You just don't get it man.
And I can see you as one of those guys saying that there is no such thing as equal rights or everyone deserving a chance during an apocalypse , instead saying "That food is mine. not yours" It YOU who does not get it

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Jonrobbie
03.25.2013 , 12:00 AM | #805
Quote: Originally Posted by BewBo View Post
Do not need for companions.
Plain as that.
If i see other players doing it, then why cant i?
Fact is if i have to accept that others will do it, then im going to do it too, its that simple
Until this loot system of needing is only for characters and not their companions is put in place by the developers I say its an equal opportunity for all

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Jonrobbie
03.25.2013 , 12:04 AM | #806
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
Or perhaps the other player was simply new, and a mere "Just so you know, Need is for main characters not companions" may have sufficed.

But no, that would instantly turn you into a withering mess of an immature child hell bent on getting what you want, eh?

You claim others are being immature and arrogant. Have you looked in a mirror recently?
Or maybe you are assuming he was? I dont assume that an unwritten rule is in place, nor do i assume the knowledge that other players have regarding games. And judging by the comments of those on this thread that such players get kicked and vengeance must be hadi dont believe for a second that any such decorum would be shown.
Nor do i assume to tell others what they cant or cant do
Unlike YOU i dont relegate myself to a higher superior attitude where other people are beholden to me
Yes I have looked in the mirror recently and I see someone who believes in equal opportunity for all
I take it you look in the mirror and see "Mine, not yours"
Get over this im entitled and you are not attitude

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Jonrobbie
03.25.2013 , 12:07 AM | #807
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
His post on the forums was angry, nasty, insulting and made just as many assumptions about others as he claimed others made about him.

I have no objection to what he did in-game.
. I have said that those who vote kicked me and reduced themselves to name calling was childish and immature
Hardly angry, nasty and immature is it? especially considering i was willing to accept said vote kicking if that was what meant exercising my rights

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Jonrobbie
03.25.2013 , 12:13 AM | #808
Quote: Originally Posted by BaronV View Post
well shame on you for not calling him out on it then. Your choice not to throw a "hissy fit" but really isnt that because you would much rather need for comps yourself?

You can keep doing what you want. But if you are on my server and I come across you, I'll be sure to put you on /ignore and out you on fleet general as a ninja. And I bet that many of the others you group will do the same.

so... happy solo playing!
So you would vilify me because you have an opinion that I do not agree with?
Nice, hope treating other people with such indignity and callous retaliation works out for you in life

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forumname
03.25.2013 , 12:42 AM | #809
Quote: Originally Posted by Jonrobbie View Post
Or maybe you are assuming he was? I dont assume that an unwritten rule is in place, nor do i assume the knowledge that other players have regarding games. And judging by the comments of those on this thread that such players get kicked and vengeance must be hadi dont believe for a second that any such decorum would be shown.
Nor do i assume to tell others what they cant or cant do
Unlike YOU i dont relegate myself to a higher superior attitude where other people are beholden to me
Yes I have looked in the mirror recently and I see someone who believes in equal opportunity for all
I take it you look in the mirror and see "Mine, not yours"
Get over this im entitled and you are not attitude
I've missed most of the middle part of the debate, so what I have to say may have already been said.

I had not started out knowing the the Need/Greed is decided here so I am quite sympathetic to those who get flamed for doing so. I really do think that people should start by calmly explaining their expectations of loot rules the first time there's a disagreement and try to get everyone to agree instead of rushing to flame and kick the person like how they treated you.

However, with that said. Need for Self, Greed for companions has reached the status of a "convention" in this game and most of your group members have more or less come to accept this by default.

If you plan to depart from this, you have to make it known and get their consent to use your method of rolling for loot. They cannot mind-read what you plan to do and when surprised, people tend to get angry, which is what happened.

Finally, I still think the current social convention for loot is better. It's more straight-forward, and still imo fairer for whoever's in the flashpoint. And you can still ask if you still like to roll need for a companion.

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Icestar
03.26.2013 , 04:12 AM | #810
Quote: Originally Posted by forumname View Post
Finally, I still think the current social convention for loot is better. It's more straight-forward, and still imo fairer for whoever's in the flashpoint. And you can still ask if you still like to roll need for a companion.
This is what it is all about, if players communicate and ask if they are allowed to roll no socal laws can be broken.

If the player accepts the answer.

It is those that does not accept the social laws that ends up in drama and on ignorelists.

Some simply refuse to accept what the community thinks is common groundrules, it is up to them but they will run into alot more problems.