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Ahhmyface
12.20.2011 , 05:40 PM | #11
I can own you with any class. Who wants to place bets?
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D-Block
12.20.2011 , 05:54 PM | #12
I'm a 32 Merc and usually run with a Sorc Healer, Sorc Dps, and a Marauder. We steamroll. Get some friends, get on vent, coordinate, and you will have a lot more fun.
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OMGitsAktioN
12.20.2011 , 05:54 PM | #13
Most people's tears flow freely, but I see you have decided to bullet them.

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Repefe
12.20.2011 , 05:58 PM | #14
Don't play healer ... not worth it. Embrace support .. you dps, you heal when appropriate. Often it's better to dps. If the fight has ended or your group got a breathing room -> heal.
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Inat_mivea
12.20.2011 , 05:58 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Makhbet View Post
. . . through his healing as long as he has mana.
beg ya pardon?

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Holysorrow
12.20.2011 , 06:05 PM | #16
Huttball is the bomb. I love PVP in this game.

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ThisguyYay
12.20.2011 , 06:09 PM | #17
I think the OP is a bad player ... I think we should discuss this first ...

And in a game like this where you can spam big heals, healing can easily be OP. Could you imagine trying to kill someone when they are getting 3-4k heals spammed on them every 2 seconds, plus HoT's and whatnot, and just by 1 healer ?

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DarthChamberlin
12.20.2011 , 06:13 PM | #18
the only thing that annoys me is the group drop after group queuing >>sp leaving then having to regroup re que and you cant group que in a raid unless i missed something ...shrug\
btw im jedi shadow and i cant dps and i cant heal but i can out last out break and out interupt any class there is
on a side note lvl 10 bolstered or not should never have to face off with a 35 higher foe the lvl caps in pvp should be in place i dont want a bunch of lvl 10s just off home world pvping with me and i honestly honestly believe that 36- 50 pvp 10 -25 pvp 26-35 or some kind of break down like that

i also hate huttball
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Obbu
12.20.2011 , 06:34 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Ellandess View Post

- 30% reduction in healing received for engaging in PvP? Basically what you're saying is, nerf healers in pvp, or healers don't bother pvping, we've reduced your value by 30%?
As a full-healer spec (operative medic), i support this debuff: i can still outheal 1 dps, sometimes 2.

The damage inflicted by players is not the same as that inflicted by mobs.

Works fine.

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- A warzone packed with ramps where any form of knockback (from any class) is an I win button?
The knockbacks aren't that effective in huttball honestly - nowhere near as powerful as forcespeed, intervene, force leap - hell, even pass is more broken than the knockbacks really.

Useful? yes. Not even approaching an "I win button" though.

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- Raid frames broken so that health in them can never be trusted?
Agreed - when the health bug occurs, it ruins the game for healers, if you are the only healer, it totally screws your team.

The disappearing people from the Raid UI is just as bad.

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- Absolutely no reward whatsoever for open world pvp?
Agreed - They need rewards in ASAP, in order to prevent Open world pvp from being crippled from the outset.

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- Targets (and yourself!) disappearing through the floor Void Star?
Never experienced this personally - cannot comment.

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- Resolve (CC immunity) completely failing to make any difference whatsoever in the majority of cases?
I've found that stunlocks only occur very rarely.

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- Chain CC a serious problem where skill counts for nothing?
Again, its an exceptionally rare occurence.

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- An attractiveness of certain classes that means that almost 80% of an opponents team has ranged stun, slow, damage, healing, knock back and force speed?
Very difficult to stop some classes from being more aesthetically attractive.

Every heal/CC that you use is GCDs/Force points that arent being spent on mana.

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I seriously can't be bothered to type any more than that. The list goes on and on. PvP is so frustrating in swtor it's unbelievable.

* In before the muppets: L2P > TLDR > go play something else > lose much > day 1 nerf call?

Frankly, those that cannot recognise any issues at all with pvp really don't have a clue what they're talking about.

IMPORTANT: By the way - allow us to choose which warzone we go into and all these issues are acceptable - I will just avoid Huttball completely.
And in doing so, more than triple the length of warzone queues - no thankyou.

I'm not implying that the game is perfect - but a lot of the concerns you are listing are not concerns to me at all, personally.

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DarthOvertone
12.20.2011 , 07:03 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Ellandess View Post
A warzone packed with ramps where any form of knockback (from any class) is an I win button?
I don't think it's an IWIN button at all. After you encounter it once or twice, you should be prepared for this tactic in the future. Just gotta know that it's coming, especially when you are near a fire trap in Huttball or on a top ramp. There are ways to prevent this, properly position yourself, and even get an opponent to blow their load before you are in range of the knockback.

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Absolutely no reward whatsoever for open world pvp?
This is a serious problem. BW needs to implement some incentive for peeps to do more OWPvP or it will just be flash in the pan stuff. Right now you get nothing for an open world kill. Should be able to work toward a title, get some valor...something. Doesn't have to be gear or shinies and it should apply to all levels and in all contested areas, not just level 50 in Ilum.

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Targets (and yourself!) disappearing through the floor Void Star?
Never seen this and I've been through countless runs of VS.

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Resolve (CC immunity) completely failing to make any difference whatsoever in the majority of cases?
I agree on this actually. Not just in PvP, but in PvE too. The Resolve cd is just too long. Needs to be reduced to 45 secs imo, maybe even 30 secs.

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Chain CC a serious problem where skill counts for nothing?
This issue is a bit tricky. Mainly because there are different forms of CC. There are long stuns and stuns that break on damage. My Shadow does his best to only pop his Resolve on a long stun. When multiple players are hitting you, they are usually only doing it in a semi-coordinated way. Learn to differentiate between stuns so you don't break one unnecessarily. Often, the other players will break it for you.

Smart players will actually set you up with a weak stun so they can lock you down with a long one. You really need to adapt accordingly.

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An attractiveness of certain classes that means that almost 80% of an opponents team has ranged stun, slow, damage, healing, knock back and force speed?
My Shadow wrecks SIs. But of course, you could be referring to JCs here as well. heh

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IMPORTANT: By the way - allow us to choose which warzone we go into and all these issues are acceptable - I will just avoid Huttball completely.
Agreed on this. Peeps should be able to choose a WZ if they wish, or at least filter out WZs they don't want to do.
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