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Developer Blog: Cartel Reputation

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Developer Blog: Cartel Reputation
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CelCawdro
03.19.2013 , 02:36 PM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by AlienEyeTX View Post
I agree that it should just be one rep, but support the current plan if it is being embraced by other customers.
There are very few of these "other" customers, however. They're being milked dry, sure, but the system could have rewarded minimal, moderate and excessive spenders instead of solely the latter. And it could have generated a little love from the playerbase because of that.

It's simply a wasted opportunity to establish a positive relationship with the playerbase. Nearly everything BioWare has done regarding the free-to-play model has been creating an antagonistic relationship with the playerbase. They ask themselves, "How much can we coerce a players to pay $$$ for X feature before they are instead turned off of the game?" They've explored that boundary with many things, from quest rewards to the cargo hold to species selection to character limits to quickslots.

Fortunately, BioWare has shown that it is willing to backslide on its more egregious offenses. Hopefully, this is one of those issues. Too bad the good will it could have garnered is already lost.

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AlienEyeTX
03.19.2013 , 02:54 PM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by CelCawdro View Post
There are very few of these "other" customers, however.
You sure about that? I think they have enough data to support implementing the system that they chose. I mean, they don't pull these things out of thin air.
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
thank AlienEyeTX for being ridiculously good at this game:

-eric

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CelCawdro
03.19.2013 , 02:59 PM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by AlienEyeTX View Post
You sure about that? I think they have enough data to support implementing the system that they chose. I mean, they don't pull these things out of thin air.
I'm sure targeting those few (relative to the majority of the playerbase) is quite profitable for them. I just keep a hopeless hope that, maybe, just maybe, EA could do something that actually engenders faith in their games. They don't need to stop worrying about the bottomline, but the pursuit of profit is not as mutually exclusive to all other objectives a publisher may have.

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AshlaBoga
03.19.2013 , 03:09 PM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthFamine View Post
It's pay to win and I want no part of it.
1. It's not P2W
2. I want no part of it

Paid reputation is tacky, not a P2W. I'd go as far as saying it's adding insult to injury (the injury being no Class Act 4)
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Astudyin
03.19.2013 , 03:56 PM | #205
So having bought one of these packs on a low level alt I received Cartel Market Certificate. It is bound to the character. Why are they not bound to legacy (BOL) so we can pick and choose which characters we want the resale items on or will the resale items be BOL?

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Heezdedjim
03.19.2013 , 04:00 PM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by Astudyin View Post
Why are they not bound to legacy (BOL) so we can pick and choose which characters we want the resale items?
They will be soon. Announced just a bit ago for the next patch.

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da_zone
03.19.2013 , 10:02 PM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
I wanted to pop in and give an update on a few minor changes coming to the Cartel Market Reputation system. I know these things will not address all of your concerns but as always, keep your feedback coming. We are continuing to look at ways to improve the system.
  • Coming in Game Update 1.7.3 Cartel Market Certificates will now be bind on legacy (as with any other timing announcement this is subject to change).
  • We feel that a frustration point for some players is that the Contraband Resale Corporation is that it appears too tightly tied to the rest of the Organizations you see in the Reputation system. Sometime in the future, (no exact timing yet) we are going to move all Cartel Market Reputations to their own tab within the Legacy UI.

As always, keep the feedback coming. We are constantly exploring new ways to improve on the Cartel Market Reputation system.

-eric
just popping this in here in case someone missed it .

-a step in the right direction if you ask me , but i agree ..adding more of these reputations are a bad idea...one single bar to fill up and get benefits from is enough.

-its a nice way to reward your cartel pack purchasers / customers and get people to chuck some more cash in to the cartel market, as long as the rewards in-game are equally exciting and worth getting...witch is a hard balance to pull off) i have nothing against it.

just please ...don't add more of them, and never combine game systems with the cartel market again...ever

PS: Eric and the community team are really stepping up ..keep up the good work folks!
This game needs to work on its communication with the fan base :P and you guys have been doing a great job since you "took over", keep it up and may the force be with you.

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Trinak
03.19.2013 , 10:07 PM | #208
Just wanted to add my two cents that as a subscriber I think the new cartel rep is horrible. Assuming you were very lucky and get the purple rep each time it would require roughly 48 packs to reach max rep. This means two of the hypercrate packs. As I get 600 CC a month this would take me roughly 1 1/2 years to complete if I put my CC towards only those packs. Am I missing something?

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Heezdedjim
03.19.2013 , 10:37 PM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by Trinak View Post
Just wanted to add my two cents that as a subscriber I think the new cartel rep is horrible. Assuming you were very lucky and get the purple rep each time it would require roughly 48 packs to reach max rep. This means two of the hypercrate packs. As I get 600 CC a month this would take me roughly 1 1/2 years to complete if I put my CC towards only those packs. Am I missing something?
$$$$$

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Infernixx
03.19.2013 , 11:46 PM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by Trinak View Post
Just wanted to add my two cents that as a subscriber I think the new cartel rep is horrible. Assuming you were very lucky and get the purple rep each time it would require roughly 48 packs to reach max rep. This means two of the hypercrate packs. As I get 600 CC a month this would take me roughly 1 1/2 years to complete if I put my CC towards only those packs. Am I missing something?
Yep, you are.
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.