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Viable Assassin Hybrid DPS Spec's

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Viable Assassin Hybrid DPS Spec's

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Novarium
03.04.2013 , 05:25 PM | #1
Hi Guys, I know there is a lot to be disappointed about with the changes we have received to our DPS tree's.

Firstly My reasoning behind these 2 builds, I believe there is not much point going up the Darkness tree unless you place the full 36 points. In my opinion there is just no point in stopping short of 36 points because every time i try a darkness hybrid spec I tell myself "2 more points I can get this" so hence these 2 hybrid specs is what i believe are the best 2 Hybrid DPS specs available to us.

Note* these are foremost PVP spec's ok lets take a look.

Build 1 : Surging Maul Proc

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

This build is a complete lock down spike build, Opening from stealth with a spike u get a free maul proc, and low slash granting a maul.. you opening would look like this Spike>Maul>Low slash>Crushing Darkness>Maul>other abilities This Opening provides a huge spike play locking down the opponent getting 2 maul's and a Crushing. from this point resolve is still not full and they have lost 50% health you completely control the fight from this point on.

Build 2 : Lighting Dot Proc

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

This Build is a Massive control Dot spec, Still get the Maul procs for spike damage, however you get the double Dot damage from Lighting Charges's Overcharge and crushing darkness. you still get the utility of low slash. This Build should be used to simply out play your opponent in a 1v1 you still get all the usual utility but the constant pressure of 2 Dots and ur ability to kite and stealth..

Remeber that after a spike or Low slash you can full cast crushing Darkness in both spec's use this to your advantage

I have tested both of these builds extensively and find them both extremely viable for PVP. These have just been tested in Normal warzones not Ranked... so competitive play could change my opinion on these.. It's really up to the individuals play style.

Thanks hope these builds Help out all you assassin Hybrid specs
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Novarium
03.04.2013 , 05:44 PM | #2
If i had to play a Darkness Hybrid spec it would be this one.

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

using low slash to cast Crushing Darkness, and still have most of the tankiness from the Darkness tree.
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CelestialsDragon
03.04.2013 , 06:31 PM | #3
I still don't understand why people in their dps specs don't grab Thrashing Blades and Charge Mastery. The 9% damage boost to Thrash and the bonus to accuracy and crit% is a definite yes in my book. Not by any means a waste of skill points. I have noticed in in many hybrid builds that was the case. And there are also those that say the damage increase in not significant enough and I have tried them both out and yes there IS indeed a generous damage boost. with both talents.

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Novarium
03.04.2013 , 06:54 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by CelestialsDragon View Post
I still don't understand why people in their dps specs don't grab Thrashing Blades and Charge Mastery. The 9% damage boost to Thrash and the bonus to accuracy and crit% is a definite yes in my book. Not by any means a waste of skill points. I have noticed in in many hybrid builds that was the case. And there are also those that say the damage increase in not significant enough and I have tried them both out and yes there IS indeed a generous damage boost. with both talents.
Its Because you clearly dont understand the build.. In both of these builds, in one build the damage comes from duplicity procs and Crushing darkness the other builds around Dot's and Duplicity proc.. Why would I waste 5 points going after those pointless talents? what do you suggest we give up? give up Deathfield or Impose Weakness in build 1? LOL then your just asking for the build to fail.. spend 5 points on 6% trash damage and 9% armor pen completely useless.. I would take 1 point in exposed weakness over those 5 points any day of the week.. and if you give those talents for 6% and 9% armor pen then you clearly dont understand how to build a strond PVP spec.. i am using trash maybe 10% of the time.. what wasted points it would be.. This is not PVE

In build 2 Would i give up deathmark? lingering burns or low slash for 6% trash damage and 45% increased critical strike chance on lightning charge? im sorry but you clearly dont understand how to build a strong PVP spec.. Not having a go at you or anything but my 2 builds are way more viable then any builds you could post including those 5 talent points.. And thats a Fact
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Xethis
03.05.2013 , 08:25 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Novarium View Post
Hi Guys, I know there is a lot to be disappointed about with the changes we have received to our DPS tree's.

Firstly My reasoning behind these 2 builds, I believe there is not much point going up the Darkness tree unless you place the full 36 points. In my opinion there is just no point in stopping short of 36 points because every time i try a darkness hybrid spec I tell myself "2 more points I can get this" so hence these 2 hybrid specs is what i believe are the best 2 Hybrid DPS specs available to us.

Note* these are foremost PVP spec's ok lets take a look.

Build 1 : Surging Maul Proc

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

This build is a complete lock down spike build, Opening from stealth with a spike u get a free maul proc, and low slash granting a maul.. you opening would look like this Spike>Maul>Low slash>Crushing Darkness>Maul>other abilities This Opening provides a huge spike play locking down the opponent getting 2 maul's and a Crushing. from this point resolve is still not full and they have lost 50% health you completely control the fight from this point on.

Build 2 : Lighting Dot Proc

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

This Build is a Massive control Dot spec, Still get the Maul procs for spike damage, however you get the double Dot damage from Lighting Charges's Overcharge and crushing darkness. you still get the utility of low slash. This Build should be used to simply out play your opponent in a 1v1 you still get all the usual utility but the constant pressure of 2 Dots and ur ability to kite and stealth..

Remeber that after a spike or Low slash you can full cast crushing Darkness in both spec's use this to your advantage

I have tested both of these builds extensively and find them both extremely viable for PVP. These have just been tested in Normal warzones not Ranked... so competitive play could change my opinion on these.. It's really up to the individuals play style.

Thanks hope these builds Help out all you assassin Hybrid specs
Both of these builds have been hashed out many times. The first build you basically stole Wakajinn from live. This build in 2.0 fails because of how they changed the Surging Charge Discharge. It is now pointless to run Surging Charge with out Voltaic Slash. No matter how you slice you now have to have some type of set up before you can burst. You also have to waste too many points in the Madness tree in order to get DF.

The second build is a Mad Maul build. You do have some points that you messed up. Not taking Induction for the boost to Maul is just fail. No reason to go all the way up to Duplicity and not take Induction, even if you are not going to run Surging Charge. Now this spec does perform well compared to the other specs in sustained dps and burst. I parse higher with a version of this spec than I do with full Madness or Deception. For pvp, its just too squishy. The heals will not be enough. When Blackout is on cd you will be a free kill. Just too much to try and set up before the crit train gets rolling.

There are two Mad Maul builds that might work for pvp. The first is http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20 This build your running in Lightning Charge and spamming Thrash for Raze and Duplicity procs. Your Shocks have 50% increased crit damage and you get 6% dmg reduction from Entropic field. On top of that reduced CD on Blackout and Force Cloak with Fade as well as 30% mitigation on AOE damage. Hard hitting Mauls with a hard ticking Dot. It will take a skilled player to be successful with this spec, but it will also be really fun when everything goes right.

The next is http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20 This spec is closer to the name Mad Maul as you are obviously using more Madness talents this time. Your trading your harder hitting Shocks for harder hitting Deathfields and dot crits. You are also trading Fade and Entropic Field for heals, which will make you much much more squishy. This spec will take even more skill to play because the slightest mistake and pretty much anyone will be able to turn on you and blow you up. This spec will probably yield the best dps with the harder ticking dots and will be a nightmare for healers. But most other dps will kill you pretty easily.

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Novarium
03.05.2013 , 06:08 PM | #6
Are you Kidding me? Both builds you linked are exactly the same as build number 2 that i linked and the points that you made in your comments is the exact abilities i have point my talent points into.. And saying that i have just copied someone is just plain stupid because i do not look at other people's builds i construct my builds around my own playstyle and both of these specs are completely viable in normal warzones I have not tested in ranked which I stated in my post so keep your self righteous comments to your self especially after you linked builds that were exactly the same as mine.. The only valid point you made is to put 2 points in induction.
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Novarium
03.05.2013 , 06:12 PM | #7
So bassed on your comments I have made the following change to build 2

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

The only thing i changed in this build is adding 2 points to induction... just a tip before you comment next time try actually looking at my build before you just assume whats wrong with it because half the comments you make are just plain stupid seeing as how i already have points in those abilities
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Novarium
03.05.2013 , 06:19 PM | #8
And you cmment about having to voltaic slash is just wrong.. you only need voltaic slash to build voltage.. surging charge can be built of trash just as easily of voltaic slash.
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Slyde-Asera
03.05.2013 , 06:50 PM | #9
What about 0/18/28 and run in Lightning Charge, This almost like the Spec i run now Live 0/13/28. I wonder if it still will hold its own.

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20
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stephenalandavie
03.06.2013 , 12:02 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Novarium View Post
If i had to play a Darkness Hybrid spec it would be this one.

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

using low slash to cast Crushing Darkness, and still have most of the tankiness from the Darkness tree.
Crushing darkness? you mean maul?. or is there a change i don't know of?