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The Truth About Rage

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The Truth About Rage

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JustinxDuff
03.04.2013 , 10:14 AM | #11
I am more worried about PTs than I am smash to be honest...
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Carter_Mathis
03.04.2013 , 10:30 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Aluvi View Post
And we have that aoe reduction for good reason : we are a medium armor melee class. Many times the choice is either sit in the aoe or dont contribute damage. We don't have the luxury of moving out of it. I can also tell you that in general, my smash crits for about 7k, possibly 8 on a sorc. My record so far has been 11.2k on a 100% pve geared sage. I dont feel this is unreasonable given that he had 30k plus health and only the expertise given to him by bolster.
Wait.... I'm a scrapper who wears medium armor and I don't have 30% aoe damage reduction. For that matter, nor do I have 20% for 30 seconds, 25% tech/force with a 50% defense chance, 99% for 4 seconds, or 50% while camo'd. I assume my medium armor is just better than your medium armor

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Hungryfangs
03.04.2013 , 10:40 AM | #13
ill just transfer my 90 worgen hunter into this game and own everyone with 100k+ crits

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Capt_Beers
03.04.2013 , 01:22 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by cycao View Post
A medium armor melee class with arguably the best defensive cooldowns in the game...


anyways I don't have an issue with smash and I play one of the squishiest specs in the game.
Only problem I have with Smash/Sweep is that they can have all the stacks and auto crit setup with out actually fighting anyone.
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Aluvi
03.04.2013 , 01:23 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Carter_Mathis View Post
Wait.... I'm a scrapper who wears medium armor and I don't have 30% aoe damage reduction. For that matter, nor do I have 20% for 30 seconds, 25% tech/force with a 50% defense chance, 99% for 4 seconds, or 50% while camo'd. I assume my medium armor is just better than your medium armor
You also get permanent stealth, multiple stuns, a permanent speed boost, more cc, and a hybrid spec that can not only kill, but also keep yourself and other teammates alive. Not to mention that the openers and stuns can pretty much take a player from 100% to 30% or less before they can even lift a finger. Oh and did I mention that you are the second best dueling class, beatable only by assassins? Your class is more fragile because not only does it have some of the highest burst damage in pvp, but it can lock down the target for the duration of that burst. It's like a combat rogue from wow on crack. Our claes are fundamentally different and fill different roles. Youre doing an apple to oranges comparison here. Also, if you didn't want to be the stealthy cloak and daggers type, you shouldn't have rolled that toon. Blaming my class for what you feel are your classes inadequacies is not fair.
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Aluvi
03.04.2013 , 01:26 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Capt_Beers View Post
Only problem I have with Smash/Sweep is that they can have all the stacks and auto crit setup with out actually fighting anyone.
I dont know if you are aware but this is only once every 2.5 minutes for marauders.
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Capt_Beers
03.04.2013 , 02:05 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Aluvi View Post
I dont know if you are aware but this is only once every 2.5 minutes for marauders.
I know it's a long CD it's just annoys me that they can have that kind of damage setup before they even enter combat. I'm also not a huge fan of getting leaped to immediately hitting my KB seeing the Smash animation go off 10 meters away and still getting hit for 5k.
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ThatGuyAnon
03.04.2013 , 02:28 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Capt_Beers View Post
I know it's a long CD it's just annoys me that they can have that kind of damage setup before they even enter combat. I'm also not a huge fan of getting leaped to immediately hitting my KB seeing the Smash animation go off 10 meters away and still getting hit for 5k.
That is latency problems, truth is you REALLY did get smashed when he leaped you, but the animation didn't go off until he was 5ft away.

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thesadplanet
03.04.2013 , 02:31 PM | #19
Due to the reality of field respec in pvp, I would much rather have a sorc or powertech dps in ranked pvp than a marauder. Besides predation, they dont really serve a purpose that can't be done just as well by another class, especially in 2.0.

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Aluvi
03.04.2013 , 03:25 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by thesadplanet View Post
Due to the reality of field respec in pvp, I would much rather have a sorc or powertech dps in ranked pvp than a marauder. Besides predation, they dont really serve a purpose that can't be done just as well by another class, especially in 2.0.
That cuts deep Rav, oh so deep. Guess ill be putting that full wh pt set to use after all TT.
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