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The Truth About Rage

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The Truth About Rage

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Aluvi
03.04.2013 , 07:56 AM | #1
It's fine. It does not need nerfed more. Those of you that watch my stream or other marauders, or that have played PTS and gotten smashed for 10k - this is normal. You likely have not gotten your new pvp gear yet, meaning that my full Conqueror 100% min/maxed set is much, much better than your EWH or naked gear, or even partisan. When fully min/maxed, my mara has just shy of 30k hp. I get smashed typically for 6-7k. A 7k crit on a 30k health individual is far from game breaking.

Those of you running around with 22k hp, or in full PvE gear: yes, I will own you. I have far superior gear. I have around 200 more bonus damage, more surge, and about 8k more HP. Snipers and powertechs as geared as me hit just as hard, if not harder. I have a hard time keeping up with the single target dps of snipers now. Even lightning sorcs are extremely good now, and can do 7k + 9k crits, right in a row. They. Have. Nice. Burst. Zomg.

Those of you moaning need to have things put into perspective. Yes, the numbers have gone up. ALL the numbers. Smash is hitting slightly harder. So is everything else. Everyone went from 20k hp to 30k hp. That's a 50% increase in HP, across the board. I guarantee you my dps has not gone up by 50% in a typical match.

Please gear up on the PTS and run with a premade before you start complaining about "OMG OP". You got owned because you are not as geared or not as good.

/signed, your friendly neighborhood marauder.
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SomeJagoff
03.04.2013 , 08:28 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Aluvi View Post
played PTS and gotten smashed for 10k - this is normal.
lol, too bad they nerfed the talent tree surge and the extra stack, otherwise 13k would be normal..
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anwg
03.04.2013 , 09:26 AM | #3
You "only" get smashed for 7k because you have a 30% aoe reduction

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BambulaGTS
03.04.2013 , 09:34 AM | #4
Nice speech while sitting on + 30 % passive dmr from AoE.

Sniper burst were simply blown up with crit rating and crit from main stat changes.

Powertechs as far as I know in their nasty spec lost significant set crit bonus.

And sorcs, I found hilarious to compare insta AoE (smash) with single target (thundering blast) casttime ablility, which could be made uninterruptible (sic!) using some big CD.

So, all should go heavy RNG mode while rage have full control.

Now people say: wait a minute, there will be new gear with bigger stats and you will have your 30 + crit chance. I think, ok, I'll get my 30 + crit chance, while rage will get all bonus damage from it and nothing will really change.

Less qq more pew pew they said, it will be fun they said .

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Tankqull
03.04.2013 , 09:37 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by anwg View Post
You "only" get smashed for 7k because you have a 30% aoe reduction
this - give smash a dmg dropoff from centre to the maximum effected range.100% at 1m radius, 50% down to 1% outside of it.

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WaywardOne
03.04.2013 , 09:44 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Tankqull View Post
this - give smash a dmg dropoff from centre to the maximum effected range.100% at 1m radius, 50% down to 1% outside of it.
Melee range is 4m in this game. Smash range is 5m. What kind of drop off are you thinking about?

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Aluvi
03.04.2013 , 09:54 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by anwg View Post
You "only" get smashed for 7k because you have a 30% aoe reduction
And we have that aoe reduction for good reason : we are a medium armor melee class. Many times the choice is either sit in the aoe or dont contribute damage. We don't have the luxury of moving out of it. I can also tell you that in general, my smash crits for about 7k, possibly 8 on a sorc. My record so far has been 11.2k on a 100% pve geared sage. I dont feel this is unreasonable given that he had 30k plus health and only the expertise given to him by bolster.
Aluvian (now Aluvien) Sith Marauder <Infinite Darkness> Shadowlands
Aluviann Jedi Sentinel <Triumph> Shadowlands
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Glower
03.04.2013 , 10:06 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Aluvi View Post
It's fine. It does not need nerfed more. Those of you that watch my stream or other marauders, or that have played PTS and gotten smashed for 10k - this is normal.
10k AOE hit with very low cooldown?
This is not normal!
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cycao
03.04.2013 , 10:09 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Aluvi View Post
And we have that aoe reduction for good reason : we are a medium armor melee class. Many times the choice is either sit in the aoe or dont contribute damage. We don't have the luxury of moving out of it. I can also tell you that in general, my smash crits for about 7k, possibly 8 on a sorc. My record so far has been 11.2k on a 100% pve geared sage. I dont feel this is unreasonable given that he had 30k plus health and only the expertise given to him by bolster.
A medium armor melee class with arguably the best defensive cooldowns in the game...


anyways I don't have an issue with smash and I play one of the squishiest specs in the game.

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TonyDragonflame
03.04.2013 , 10:11 AM | #10
Smash is fine, stop crying and being bad, l2p!
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