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2.0 PVP specs, my opinions

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Xienive
03.01.2013 , 03:28 PM | #1
I have been playing a Shadow/Sin from launch and have always PVP'ed. I am not overall super excited with the current changes for our dps builds but after testing all sorts of different specs I have found these to work best personally.

Madness:

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

or

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

These play out like standard madness except you are trading the top line and creeping terror for Duplicity and Darkswell...(possibly fade and low slash with the second spec) not much more to say about these. Decent overall sustain and burst damage. Not as good as many other class' dps but these are probably my favorite current dps spec choices.

Deception

Overall, I really just dislike these changes. I tried playing pure Deception and just wasn't impressed at all, and I tried the hybrid with death field and it was no good either anymore. A shame because the hybrid with DF was my favorite spec before...discharge just doesn't hit very hard with 1 stack and it takes so long to build 3. I am sure people will play this spec but unless it gets some changes I just don't find it all that good anymore.

Darkness

Darkness spec is in a great position right now on the other hand. Pure Darkness is really not bad at all and I might play it sometimes even. Personally, my favorite hybrid spec that I have played for darkness would be

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

I played that spec with dps gear and a shield and didn't do bad at all. I was not topping dps charts like on live, but I did have better survivability and my dps was still not bad overall. I think even without Duplicity I got a 5k maul today with Conspirator's Cloak. I'm sure some of you might put certain points in different places from me, but those are just my preference.

Personally overall I think those are the specs I will be using in 2.0 if nothing gets changed. I would love to hear thoughts, see what other people's specs they have done best with are and any criticism on why you think points would fitter better anywhere else on my specs. I think Darkness is in great shape and so are its hyrbids, Deception is bleh and hybrid Mandess is very fun and does well enough to perform good in regular WZ's.
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majiinx
03.01.2013 , 03:45 PM | #2
I'm extremely happy with allot of the buffs to the Deception tree, however I'm really not liking the changes to the surging charge proc and discharge and I don't like the VS changes at all. Really hoping they'll consider rolling back to the old surging charge and discharge I feel both were fine just where they were at.

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Dubberdub
03.01.2013 , 04:44 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by majiinx View Post
I'm extremely happy with allot of the buffs to the Deception tree, however I'm really not liking the changes to the surging charge proc and discharge and I don't like the VS changes at all. Really hoping they'll consider rolling back to the old surging charge and discharge I feel both were fine just where they were at.
Agreed. I think some changes are nice but the ones you mentiond are the also the ones I hate.

It seems I always have to open/start out with spike as full deception which I dislike. I enjoyed the option of opening with discharge or shock but now, unless I want to lose my free maul proc I have to start out with spike.

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CelestialsDragon
03.02.2013 , 12:54 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Xienive View Post
I have been playing a Shadow/Sin from launch and have always PVP'ed. I am not overall super excited with the current changes for our dps builds but after testing all sorts of different specs I have found these to work best personally.

Madness:

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

or

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

These play out like standard madness except you are trading the top line and creeping terror for Duplicity and Darkswell...(possibly fade and low slash with the second spec) not much more to say about these. Decent overall sustain and burst damage. Not as good as many other class' dps but these are probably my favorite current dps spec choices.

Deception

Overall, I really just dislike these changes. I tried playing pure Deception and just wasn't impressed at all, and I tried the hybrid with death field and it was no good either anymore. A shame because the hybrid with DF was my favorite spec before...discharge just doesn't hit very hard with 1 stack and it takes so long to build 3. I am sure people will play this spec but unless it gets some changes I just don't find it all that good anymore.

Darkness

Darkness spec is in a great position right now on the other hand. Pure Darkness is really not bad at all and I might play it sometimes even. Personally, my favorite hybrid spec that I have played for darkness would be

http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-...0000000&ver=20

I played that spec with dps gear and a shield and didn't do bad at all. I was not topping dps charts like on live, but I did have better survivability and my dps was still not bad overall. I think even without Duplicity I got a 5k maul today with Conspirator's Cloak. I'm sure some of you might put certain points in different places from me, but those are just my preference.

Personally overall I think those are the specs I will be using in 2.0 if nothing gets changed. I would love to hear thoughts, see what other people's specs they have done best with are and any criticism on why you think points would fitter better anywhere else on my specs. I think Darkness is in great shape and so are its hyrbids, Deception is bleh and hybrid Mandess is very fun and does well enough to perform good in regular WZ's.
I like your thought process, its practically the same build I put together for the 2.0 trees. My only question is why did you go without Thrashing Blades and Charge Mastery? Extra damage to Thrash and extra crit percentage is something I dont think anyone should say no to. In my opinion of course. Course there is that argument that the extra damage on Thrash is not worth it but in actuality it is. That extra 9% damage ti Thrash is noticeable and a bit considerable if you ask me. I have tried with and without and going without is definitely out of the question for me.