Why im bummed about 2.0.

Makeb design was set years ago. This isn't some willy nilly random thing they are throwing out there. They pushed this with a LOT of thought. This is their vision for the game. Behind closed doors they have a set vision and rollout plan. No, they aren't sharing it with you.

They are not sharing their plan for the game but you Know that they have one and its been carefully thought out, How? Did they share it with you but not anyone else?

We are not the enemy here they don't need to keep their plans safely guarded and secret for fear we will out flank them. We are paying customers in a very competive luxuary market. What does that mean, it means if people feel they are being cheated or the time they have invested in the game so far is being made worthless they leave.

If anyone at Bioware needs any proof of this all they have to do is look at their Subscriber numbers, how the game hasn't blown WOW out of the water, that EA have laid off a lot of staff cauing restructing and the game went free to play within a year of launch. Now 15 bucks is nothing so I doubt very much it was a couple of bucks that caused people to stop subscribing to a game they really enjoyed. More than likely they weren't enjoying the game and felt the development team weren't likely to turn that around any time soon.

And now we find in Patch 2.0 with a major overhaul of coms and gear (making much of the stuff people have worked for over the last year worse in comparison) yet other than alienating people that have put a lot of work into getting the current top tiers of equipment I'm not sure what the design plan is. It seems to create a two tier end game one at 50 and another at 55 yet little end game content. Most of which is ment to be repeating content already in game at new difficulty levels. As level increases go it seems to be for the sake of grinding than adding new content and maps and zones to the game. Instead more Coms to grind, more augments to craft and more (but the same) flashpoints to grind through. All this so we can experience one new operation and one new planet (provided you purchased it) though I am not sure how much of the planet will make it into end game or if it is just to make getting from 50 to 55 easier.

Nope. 2.0 is also RotHC, its been confirmed by the devs. So at the moment we do not know which things on the PTS will be available for everyone and which things will be gated by the purchase of RotHC. From the advertising it looks like the 51+ content will be gated.

We are not the enemy here they don't need to keep their plans safely guarded and secret for fear we will out flank them. We are paying customers in a very competive luxuary market. What does that mean, it means if people feel they are being cheated or the time they have invested in the game so far is being made worthless they leave.

If anyone at Bioware needs any proof of this all they have to do is look at their Subscriber numbers, how the game hasn't blown WOW out of the water, that EA have laid off a lot of staff cauing restructing and the game went free to play within a year of launch.

I was really hoping that as future expansions for Swtor came out and it started to stand on it's own two feet it would start to move more and more away from the EQ/WoW style of gameplay.

you will have to purchase the expansion in order to progress to 55, the 2.0 patch is the groundwork changes to the systems, otherwise people who didn't pay for the expansion would be playing a totally different game ( still have Tionese,Columi,Rakata, etc.) this makes it to where the same game is available, but there is a lock placed on 51-55 and makeb to any who don't pay for the xpac.

I stopped reading after you wrote "We are paying customers"

Being a paying customer only entitles you to the content that Bioware has provided. In no way does it give you the right to any part of the development process. What if every iPhone customer called up Apple and said "Hey fellas, let me see what you have planed for the iPhone 6. Get out your notepad Mr. Apple-Nerd and take some of this golden feedback Ima bout to give ya"

Its real simple, you are a video game player, and Bioware is a video game developer. If they develop a theme park MMO, and you do not like it, then you have the right not to buy it. Now if you would like to suggest changes then fine. That is why the forum is here. If you want to play the "I am a paying customer, therefore, I deserve to know everything" then you do not understand how the world works.

If they do allow people to level to 55 without buying RotHC what it would mean is that people who don't buy it will be able to get to level 55 but they will have to do so through the existing content and probably the new HM Fps and maybe the new OP. We currently earn xp doing 50 content but we can't progress so all we get is the legacy xp part of it.