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AsheraII
02.23.2013 , 11:27 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by darthnish View Post
its only going to last for a couple of weeks, cause all the hardcore, premades will be hitting 55, and since they;ve removed 50 pvp gear now all future 50s wont have *** gear anymore, so fret not, just dont play lowbies for a few days!
Well, there may always be someone around who aquires the full WH/EWH set now, but DOESN'T buy the expansion.
That player can basically sit at lvl 50 forever, and be god-of-warzones.
Turning the 50 bracket into 50-54, turning EWH or at least WH into a new lvl 50 recruit set and then adding a new 55 bracket would've made more sense.
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tekhiun
02.23.2013 , 11:43 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by RobHinkle View Post
Hey gang, let me see if I can bring some clarity to the situation. We do indeed have a new level of "Recruit" that we are bolstering towards, that is based on the new 55 gear. We believe that this bolster level will allow players to complete with any possible gear combination in the 30 - 54 bracket. Obviously we've had a few bumps in the road on PTS regarding current bolster, but we should be getting that fixed up soon (tm), and everyone can get back to the business of PvP.

Thanks for everyone's feedback, not just on this but on everything, it is really helping us make a better game.
THe lack of skills cant be matched by any bolster. Pvp will die.
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MrSIlverSurfing
02.23.2013 , 11:58 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by RobHinkle View Post
Hey gang, let me see if I can bring some clarity to the situation. We do indeed have a new level of "Recruit" that we are bolstering towards, that is based on the new 55 gear. We believe that this bolster level will allow players to complete with any possible gear combination in the 30 - 54 bracket. Obviously we've had a few bumps in the road on PTS regarding current bolster, but we should be getting that fixed up soon (tm), and everyone can get back to the business of PvP.

Thanks for everyone's feedback, not just on this but on everything, it is really helping us make a better game.
Does (TM) mean tommrrow? lol. that would be nice

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Daxy
02.23.2013 , 12:04 PM | #44
devils' advocate...

what if they screw things up so bad that a purpled out level 30 is potentially more "powerful" than a level 54?

my level 10 sniper doesnt need a ton of skills when i have cover snipe and ambush available

just sayin'

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Arkerus
02.23.2013 , 12:19 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by HaLeX View Post
I am not sold on the 10$ expansion, in fact I think i may avoid buying it and just stick to the 35-54 bracket. My healer will be OP and I can avoid what will be the dead 55 matches. It will become a hardore only que with 30 min que times and premades only. Regardless I'll wait and see what the verdict is on 55 before I agree to pay the extortion money for the privelage of being stomped by fully geared 55's. It may be easier to just exit the game and come back here and there for some noobie pvp. I don't see this 55 thing doing well. The more they add the worse it gets. They should have rebalanced the classes and done matchmaking before raising the cap level.
Wow. You really told them....


Anyway...PvP happens at 55 the way it intended to be. Anything under that isn't meant to be balanced.
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MrSIlverSurfing
02.23.2013 , 12:40 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by MrSIlverSurfing View Post
Does (TM) mean tommrrow? lol. that would be nice
Bah I think it means Tuesday maintenance. Boo!

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MrSIlverSurfing
02.23.2013 , 12:41 PM | #47
I'm enjoying the changes on the commando/merc side. We still aren't no Jug/PT/Snipers, but we aren't as horrendously bad either.

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Kryosh
02.23.2013 , 12:59 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by DaedalusV View Post
Thanks for the reply. This new bolster system... It would be nice for us to know a few details about it, so if you or someone else in the know would clarify further on the following points, I would be much obliged.

1) Does the new bolster system take into account level disparity between character level and gear level

2) Does the new bolster system take into account the quality of the gear you wear (will purples be better than greens?)

I see no harm in revealing those things to us now instead of when 2.0 hits live.
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Found your reply in another thread;


I'm afraid that your bolster system will fail at doing it's job due to the disparity presently seen in what people can wear in the 30-54 bracket.

pre- 50, people are limited to PvE gear that closely follows levels, but any and all people who presently sit at max level have a plethora of options...
1) People have present end-game PvE gear min-maxed (will the bolster system handle them by decreasing main stat and endurance and increase expertise?? What about armour ratings?)
2) Present end-game PvP gear, how will the bolster system work there? What about the min-maxed people who haven't bought the expansion?

I'm very confused as to why exactly you're doing a 30-54 bracket instead of keeping the old 10-49 one and create a 50-54 one and a 55 one. You see the need for 3 brackets, why make the balancing act so difficult for yourselves by doing the very arbitrary split of 10-29/30-54/55??
A main reason the current lowbie bracket works is the fact alot of the advanced classes have a VERY useful capstone ability (e.g. guardian leap/intercede) Putting level 30-49 people up against 50+ people is inherently flawed due to how useful a 50+ char is compared to a guy under level 50.
i would guess that the reason for splitting 10-29/30-54/55 is that it is about lvl 30 that you have gotten most of your abilities.

you have a point there with the lvl "50 ability". but taking into account that a lvl 10 has like 2 or 3 abilities? a lvl 10 is as usefull compared to a lvl 49 as a lvl 30 is to someone 50 to 54 probably.

i would also guess that 50-54 wont be that crowded once most hit 55. to be honest , for me it makes sense to go 10-29/30-54.

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seiyA
02.23.2013 , 01:08 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by RobHinkle View Post

Thanks for everyone's feedback, not just on this but on everything, it is really helping us make a better game.
Might wanna take a look at the new enhancement on pvp gear and compare them with the war hero and elite one, especially on DPS gear. Using "old" enhancement would provide slightly less exp rating but would gain much more power.
As for ... well... i dont think i need to clarify more

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DaedalusV
02.23.2013 , 01:38 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Kryosh View Post
i would guess that the reason for splitting 10-29/30-54/55 is that it is about lvl 30 that you have gotten most of your abilities.

you have a point there with the lvl "50 ability". but taking into account that a lvl 10 has like 2 or 3 abilities? a lvl 10 is as usefull compared to a lvl 49 as a lvl 30 is to someone 50 to 54 probably.

i would also guess that 50-54 wont be that crowded once most hit 55. to be honest , for me it makes sense to go 10-29/30-54.
Well my point is that I see no logic at all in the 30-54 bracket choice. 40-54 maybe... 42 or 45-54 maybe... but 30?? It's such a strange choice..

the 10-29 bracket will be starved (you level alot faster in those levels compared to later ones)
the 10-29 bracket will be ill-suited to prepare you for the 30-54 bracket (kiddie pool is very shallow, grown up one is too deep.)
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