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Regarding Changes in WZ matchmaking

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Regarding Changes in WZ matchmaking

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jgoldsack
02.21.2013 , 04:59 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin View Post
Or will the bolster system also flatten downwards, making your WH gear stats simular to Recruitstats?
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Keldaur
02.21.2013 , 05:09 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by jgoldsack View Post
Bingo!
Have you actually tested this ? Do you have numbers to compare ?

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Twin
02.21.2013 , 05:09 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by jgoldsack View Post
Bingo!
Ooh is that so? If that's the case, then there isn't a problem from my point of view...wasn't even considering that possibility when i posted the thread.

Are you sure of that though?

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Bolster is now based on item rating rather than character level. Recruit-level gear is no longer available, as players will be automatically bolstered to this level of item power if they do not meet it naturally.
To me the word "Bolster" means "strengthen" not "even out". Getting "bolstered" to a certain level of power doesnt sound like something you would say if you're gonna give someone a negative effect?
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Twin
02.22.2013 , 02:23 PM | #24
So which is it? Does bolster nerf your stats down to recruit if you are above those numbers, or not?
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jgoldsack
02.22.2013 , 02:27 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin View Post
So which is it? Does bolster nerf your stats down to recruit if you are above those numbers, or not?
It is hard to say since bolster is currently fubar'd on the PTS really really badly.
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L-RANDLE
02.22.2013 , 02:40 PM | #26
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It is hard to say since bolster is currently fubar'd on the PTS really really badly.
Not only that, but I can't get any of my 50s transfered, only my 30s. So I can't even try WH/EWH gear to see what bolster does... I took one of my lowbies straight to 55. I was wearing level 35 legacy gear/mods and I got bolstered (even had some EXP given(267EXP), but maybe that is why 50's won't transfer. I got gear(WH/EWH) equipped that don't translate... Maybe I should extract all I can, sell it all off, copy, then buy it all back? I could do that with one of my 50's and not be too worried about it.
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mulzii
02.22.2013 , 03:10 PM | #27
i think what you will find is alot MORE premades now, which is ludicrous. You will find that guilds will now take a 50 or two, and two lowbie members (or alts of guildies), and all you'll see are premades. Just like PVE when higher lvls can join a group to get the group by content quickly and efficiently. Only now BW allows them to do it in a WZ...

Personally, there nothing really wrong with lowbie pvp now. I dont see why they couldnt break it out to:
10-29
30-49
50-54
55

And have an option that lets people select 'any higher range (but not lower)', so a 23 lvl person could join the 30-49 group if his own queue is slow. Just have to bolster properly depending on queue.

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MidichIorian
02.22.2013 , 03:17 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by mulzii View Post
i think what you will find is alot MORE premades now, which is ludicrous. You will find that guilds will now take a 50 or two, and two lowbie members (or alts of guildies), and all you'll see are premades. Just like PVE when higher lvls can join a group to get the group by content quickly and efficiently. Only now BW allows them to do it in a WZ...

Personally, there nothing really wrong with lowbie pvp now. I dont see why they couldnt break it out to:
10-29
30-49
50-54
55

And have an option that lets people select 'any higher range (but not lower)', so a 23 lvl person could join the 30-49 group if his own queue is slow. Just have to bolster properly depending on queue.
This is the definite solution.

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Wainamoinen
02.22.2013 , 03:49 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by mulzii View Post
Personally, there nothing really wrong with lowbie pvp now. I dont see why they couldnt break it out to:
10-29
30-49
50-54
55

And have an option that lets people select 'any higher range (but not lower)', so a 23 lvl person could join the 30-49 group if his own queue is slow. Just have to bolster properly depending on queue.
More queues, more chance of people getting stuck for ages waiting for a pop. If it's not nicessary to slice fine, don't do it.

They've got two lowbie brackets instead of one now, and after thinking for a bit I decided the level break probably wasn't too bad. From mid-30s-up toons will mostly have some decent abilites and hopefully the new bolster will even things up. While in lowbie-lowbie they don't have to face anyone with a pile of expertise and loads of top-tier abilites, so a bit easier on total newbies than now.
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Qeuzolt
02.22.2013 , 04:06 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by mulzii View Post
i think what you will find is alot MORE premades now, which is ludicrous. You will find that guilds will now take a 50 or two, and two lowbie members (or alts of guildies), and all you'll see are premades. Just like PVE when higher lvls can join a group to get the group by content quickly and efficiently. Only now BW allows them to do it in a WZ...

Personally, there nothing really wrong with lowbie pvp now. I dont see why they couldnt break it out to:
10-29
30-49
50-54
55

And have an option that lets people select 'any higher range (but not lower)', so a 23 lvl person could join the 30-49 group if his own queue is slow. Just have to bolster properly depending on queue.
I think they have the brackets the way they do because when the expansion comes out, the 30-49 bracket is not going to have enough people to make WZs. I'm sure they used the amount of players at a given level data that they have and we do not have to make this decision.

Sure tis gonna suck to get rolled if your a lowbie just getting into the bracket, but almost everyone playing this game that I have met or talked to has at least one lvl50 and I imagine most all of them will be leveling their lvl50 first, be it in PvP or PvE content. I know I plan on leveling my 50's first before I start working on another alt.

Although truthfully it may be kinda fun to leave my full WH Concealment operative stagnant for a couple months until I'm one of the few WH players in the bracket and stomp face for awhile.

The bolster does not bolster down. It just gives less bolster per peice of gear if the gear is over a certain item rating.
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