Stop forcing PVP on PVE servers

Finally you have exhausted your argument.

There is no premise, since this is neither an argument nor a debate, it's only a clarification of the obvious and a rebuttal of your submission of an argument where none exists. There is no obligation to prove that changes to the Gree Event are needed, only a clarification of why some players have found some of it to be the opposite of enjoyable.

Saying I'm being dishonest is just your mouth flapping wildly and out of control. It's a subjective topic (since it revolves around whether PvE-only players enjoy the Gree Event or not) and thus your theme of dishonesty is not applicable.

You see, this thread has literally nothing to do with you, since you are not a strictly PvE-only player ...

You are right about only one thing... at this point my request should be ignored....

by everyone except for BioWare.

Who are you to try and tell me what type of player I am or what type of player I am not. Stick to the actual facts you can prove.

i don't see why it's that big of a deal. i did the PVP quests once and never did them again.

after the first day, i just did all of the PVE-related quests that i felt like doing and eventually that trickled down to only doing the daily heroic mission for the gray helix components. i capped on the rep for both weeks in only a few days.


i can understand the frustration to a degree, but there is a limited amount of rep that can be obtained per week, and a limited amount of rep that can be obtained overall before maxing out rep with the gree, and there is plenty of time to participate in all of this and maximize rep without doing any of the PVP-related quests at all.

it's not really being forced on anyone. you really don't have to do it if you don't want to, and you can still participate in the gree event fully and maximize rep in the alloted time.

How sad. You could choose to be constructive and understanding, maybe even cooperative and supportive of the rights of other players... instead you choose to be fundamentally objectionable and just desperate for an argument to win, when there was no argument to begin with.

Let me just remind you what your first post was in this thread, so you'll be sure to understand that your attitude is not to be tolerated here:
I doubt you'd give an honest appraisal of what level of detriment you have on the Forums, and I'm sure on the gaming environment as well.
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The civil rights of PvE players ...

You accusing others of dishonesty. Now that's funny.

I'm not able to do any actual math of how many Event sessions are required to reach Champion status within the 2 weeks allowed, since I've already participated in the event this time around. Players new to the event next time around though will run into the same problems that PvE players this time around did.

By my estimation, it requires 2 level 50 characters running the full event missions every single day of the event without fail, to earn enough Trophies to reach Champion. Even then it might fall slightly short unless the player also luckily finds a group that goes to a bunch of the Gree WB or Xenoanalyst II missions. There is no point in being more specific about this, unless someone has done exactly that with only 2 level 50 characters. It could be considered reasonable to expect 1 level 50 character to be able to reach Champion if they run all PvE Event missions every day of the event, as well as a few times to the WB's and Xenoanalyst II. Otherwise, what's the point of having the event if single-character diligent every-day missions does not get one to Champion level? Those players would end up absolutely hating the event, they would find it to be a complete let-down.

If the 2 [PVP] missions were slightly changed to be [PVP/PVE] missions by making no change other than 1 auxiliary mission area outside the forced-flagging area, a large number of players with only 1 or 2 characters at level 50 who choose not to PvP will suddenly become capable of becoming Champion in those 2 weeks and being able to purchase a Gree reward weapon, rather than losing out and being completely dissatisfied with the game. Don't mistake me for a fool; I'm not pleading for your support, I'm TELLING YOU, strictly PvE-only players are due consideration for this reason in all current and future Events.

Objecting to this suggestion of change to the Gree Event is becoming absurdly ritual. Insisting that it not be allowed to be changed is nothing more than a ridiculous inconsideration of others.

Calm down.

The way flagging works, how the event was designed ,the whole thing reeked of PvP, regardless of how the quests were named or placed on the map. I have 2 healers so I know.
I got ganked more times on the "PvE" area than in the PvP one (yes, I went there too, to help guildies, to get wz comms for a relic, for a much easier heroic.) I didn't mind getting ganked, I just switched instance, toon, tried later, whatever, but the truth is, aside from the Xeno boss fight, everything was colored by PvP.

PvP was present all the time, either by you being flagged and exposed to ganking and griefing or by you working hard and wasting time to avoid it.
In the end, the event for pve'ers was something do deal with whereas for pvpers was something to enjoy. I hope its next iteration won't be like this.

i am a pve-only player on a pve server. typing in capslock or adding a billion color tags isn't going to make your point any clearer to me. i understand. completely. i just disagree (and not even completely).


honestly, i just saw that the both of you have been carrying this on for a very long time. i suggest you both calm down since this is just a game after all, and all of the bickering is literally going to amount to nothing but getting angry over something when you could both just add each other to ignore and get on with your lives.

I have never said the auto flagging system isn't broken and doesn't need fixing. It does. It needs to be shut off completely so that no action of any kind by either PvE status or PvP status players may affect the other. The only way anyone should be able to go PvP active is by a conscious choice to deliberately take the action to activate the PvP toggle.

However thus isn't the main change that is being called for in this thread. The calls to adjust some of the missions offered in the event are unneeded and it is those changes that I am against.