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How do you get people to listen to you in warzones?

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How do you get people to listen to you in warzones?

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Joesixxpack
02.18.2013 , 12:31 PM | #11
If the WZ has begun "2 East", "Mid now", etc. is all that should have to be said except for very rare circumstances. Team member situational awareness should take care of the rest. If not and explanations and buy in are required for something, it's likely just a waste of time and chat box clogger IMO.

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Arlanon
02.18.2013 , 12:48 PM | #12
lol except when someone says 2 snow 4 mid 2 grass or whatever the plan is, an ALL GO MID

or when i say i will intercept snow for a capper, but when everyone sees me drop snow, they all go mid and i end up taking the scenic route to cap snow myself and get interrupted because it took so long to get there unless the other team is even dumber than mine and sent no one to stop me

dumb

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Joesixxpack
02.18.2013 , 01:13 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Arlanon View Post
lol except when someone says 2 snow 4 mid 2 grass or whatever the plan is, an ALL GO MID

or when i say i will intercept snow for a capper, but when everyone sees me drop snow, they all go mid and i end up taking the scenic route to cap snow myself and get interrupted because it took so long to get there unless the other team is even dumber than mine and sent no one to stop me

dumb
Hehe... Had a lot of those this weekend. Next update needs a cognitive ability bolster in Fri - Sun WZs.

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VigDiath
02.18.2013 , 01:49 PM | #14
The problem I've found is this: We mark a healer to focus down and may begin attacking him but then become focused ourselves by DPS or tanks. Naturally people want to defend themselves and begin attacking whoever is attacking them. I've seen this happen sooo many times! It can be difficult to focus a target when you're being focused especially by smashers.

Another thing is healers healing healers making the squishiest healer hard to kill in addition to dps and tanks defending the healers. I'm not saying it can't be done, it just makes it a freaking pain.

Calling out directions gets ignored I'd say 99.9% of the time especially in Novare or CW. Usually people start communicating when you're losing and that's to assign blame. I have to say tho the past few days it has been fun in matches which I attribute to Ilum and all the gankings going on there. Why play fair when you can gank people?
Jedi Covenant (The Baltimore Legacy)
Laaron - 55 (Shadow Tank) Eulora - 55 (Sage Healer)
Madmartygan - 55 (Guardian DPS) Skylaadawn - 55 (Sab Smug)
Akon - 55 (Carnage Marauder) L'aron - 53 (Sorc Healer)

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WarGame
02.18.2013 , 09:57 PM | #15
As the one guy said being a standout player is the easiest way. If you are a sniper that is 4th or 5th in damage on your team no one is going to listen to you, nor should they.

Another thing I think you need to probably accept is that a lot of players pvp to kill players and don't really care about the objectives, if that's the case you're going to have to rethink what you're doing. Now if they are unwilling or incapable of priority targeting people it's obviously a lost cause and all you can do is work on your own game or be one of those people that quits in a video game.

Some other things I've noticed is if some random person tells me that they want me to sit and guard a node, I'm going to tell them to guard the node themself.

You also shouldn't need call outs, all you have to do is be aware of who is on the weakside node, and react if you see them in combat. If you're into this enough to give orders, take that upon yourself.

Lastly after the first main fight you can pretty much tell who knows what their doing on your own team, pug pvp pretty much boils down to which side has more of those people, so if you're a strategist you need to know what you're working with quick.

Really the best thing you can do is know what you're talking about and not act like a lunatic if things don't go your way. If you do that the players that are worth knowing may take some ques from you and those that aren't will continue being themselves.

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Polymerize
02.18.2013 , 11:22 PM | #16
Good thread.

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Knightsire
02.18.2013 , 11:30 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Zakaan View Post
I've a lot of passion for pick-up battlegrounds and warzones but throughout all my years the absolute biggest issue is the lack of cooperation. I can post tactics, mark HVTs, call out game-saving orders and display the meaning of life across their screen but no one ever seems to care. I get nothing. Marked targets go unscathed, nodes go undefended on defense or unmolested on offense and I feel as though I'm surrounded by tunnel-visioning killbots with no regard for anything but red-colored nameplates and the act of smashing their keyboard as hard as possible until they die, resurrect, and jump blindly back into the fray to do it all over again.

Hell, I'd even like someone to call me a complete moron and tell me that we should do X or Y instead. At least that means someone cares about what they're doing. There seems to be a blatant and completely intentional lack of concern for anything other than blaster to saber action in warzones. Players don't care whether or not they're directly responsible for their team's loss as they get to throw themselves at that damnable operative/powertech/juggernaut trio that they've tried their hand in killing 4 times in a row. They just don't seem to care about anyone else besides themselves even though they're in a game in which player to player interaction is its lifeblood.

How do you change that with nothing but words?
I have a tip...try treating someone who is making an attempt like a human being. "**** you" every other time they have something to say is not an effective method of communicating regardless of how angry you are and ******** all over them and ************ constantly really is a turn off especially for someone who is still learning.

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rlamela
02.18.2013 , 11:30 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthOvertone View Post
Pro-Tip: If they're not in TS/Mumble/Vent with you...then they're not listening.
technically this is true because my chatbox doesn't seem to speak the words you type in it (be great if it did) If I respect the player barking orders I'll follow them out. If I don't know the person barking orders I'll listen if the idea makes sense to me. But just barking to bark will get know response.

Jenna'syyde

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Polymerize
02.18.2013 , 11:34 PM | #19
The way things go in this game is - if you offer logical strategies and tactics to the team during the game, and something goes wrong; anything at all, you'll get flamed the rest of the game. That's the way it works for me anyways.

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KettleBelll
02.18.2013 , 11:52 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Polymerize View Post
The way things go in this game is - if you offer logical strategies and tactics to the team during the game, and something goes wrong; anything at all, you'll get flamed the rest of the game. That's the way it works for me anyways.

People honestly don't want to hear you talk in ops.

The only thing people should be saying in ops chat is "2 inc snow" and etc.

Other than that, no one talented talks in ops chat.