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Something i've never quite understood...

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Something i've never quite understood...

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Glower
02.18.2013 , 11:26 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Kelan View Post
*This is all from a PvP perspective*

Right to it then. I may be missing something so if i am someone please explain:

It seems that the classes that do the most damage and consistently hit the hardest(Jugg, Powertech, Sins (and all their republic counterparts)) also happen to have an absurd amount of crowd control (moreso than most classes), are also very tanky with strong defensive cooldowns, and also have great utility.
But Powertech really weak without dps and dont have an absurd amount of CC...
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Smuglebunny
02.18.2013 , 11:42 AM | #12
ok assassins yes, but juggs and pts dont have alot of stuns at all.

Every smuggler and Agent AC has more stuns and cc

Sorcs and sages have more cc.

Warriors and bounty hunters have the least cc.

invalid.

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sphyg
02.18.2013 , 11:51 AM | #13
The only classes that are tough to kill when focused is one that is being healed.

So kill that healer first and then you will see these other ones will go down as well.

The exception to this is a smuggler/op healer. They can be tough to bring down.
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UGLYMRJ
02.18.2013 , 11:52 AM | #14
Something I've never understood...

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Wainamoinen
02.18.2013 , 12:01 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
Something I've never understood...

Spoiler
It's so you have to eat 48 hot dogs at a time.

A source in Bioware told me that they are behind it. Their plan is that America's obesity epidemic continues to expand in hot-dog-fuelled insanity, such that soon everyone will be so enormously overweight that all they can do is slump at home the whole day and buy cartel coins to play SWTOR.

The cunning swine.

And I bet you eat premade hotdogs and just don't care.

edit: I may be about to leave work for the day and a little stir crazy.
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UGLYMRJ
02.18.2013 , 12:03 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Wainamoinen View Post
It's so you have to eat 48 hot dogs at a time.

A source in Bioware told me that they are behind it. Their plan is that America's obesity epidemic continues to expand in hot-dog-fuelled insanity, such that soon everyone will be so enormously overweight that all they can do is slump at home the whole day and buy cartel coins to play SWTOR.

The cunning swine.

And I bet you eat premade hotdogs and just don't care.
So.... working as intended?

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MusicRider
02.18.2013 , 12:10 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Wainamoinen View Post
It's so you have to eat 48 hot dogs at a time.
.
Actually 24 is the magic number you are looking for.

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foxmob
02.18.2013 , 12:14 PM | #18
short answer to your question (that you didn't ask, see what I did there?) is that you are wrong but in an understandable way - it just seems that the tanky classes get all the toys.

sniper & marauder are, along with powertech, the best dps classes in the game. only the powertech is a hybrid class, and their tank spec is relatively bad. so they're like a pure dps class anyway. that's why they have all their cc, though: they're a tankable class.

the real question you ought to be asking is why are pure dps and tank/dps hybrid classes so much better dpsers than healing/dps dpsers. the answer is that BW seems to think the utility of a cleanse and offhealing are relatively equivalent to - or better than! (/facepalm) - the utility of taunts and pulls/leaps. they are not. dpsers who cleanse have minor utility. offhealing is a complete waste of time. you'd help your buddy more by killing the guy attacking him.

tank classes tend to have more stun CCs (bubble stun aside). ranged classes tend to have more escape abils (roots/mezzes) - once again, bubble stun aside, which actually was a mezz until the latest re-balancing?.

edit: the only anomaly I can think of is maras having a slew of dcds (most of which ppl don't use). but they also lack the traditonal stuns that you would find on other classes.
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JP_Legatus
02.18.2013 , 01:24 PM | #19
Powertechs are glass cannons and their cc isn't spectacularly better than anyone else's.
People talk about juggs being tanky, but for dps juggs this isn't the case. A dps jugg dies just as fast if not faster than any other dps class out there. Tired of being smashed? Hit the jug with focus fire from 2 people and he'll die in seconds.
Jugg tanks are obviously tanky, they are tanks.
Sins have crappy tanking, average dps, and lots of cc/utility.

Additionally, all these classes have to be right up in people's faces to do the majority of their damage, which usually means they're the first to die. Sorcs and snipers don't. And sorcs have bubblestun.

This is all pretty balanced when you take out the fact that smash/bubblestun is broke as ****, which everyone is well aware of.
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Zakmonster
02.18.2013 , 01:44 PM | #20
Yes, Powertechs are Gods.

Kneel before me.