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I present a Challenge.

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Carter_Mathis
02.17.2013 , 05:54 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Wookieenator View Post
@Vasyel I'm on the shadowlands, near 3k rating and have sub 10 legitimate losses with 350+ wins. This is not boasting e-peen but it's clear who is currently #1 in ranked on our server.
Utopi on Jedi Covenant has like 6 legitimate losses with ~250 wins, it just means that you can be very selective about the people you queue with. Attempting to judge a guild off of the stats of one person (I'd need to gather way more info about the guilds you were talking about and your own guild, which would be a major drag) is like saying, "hey, I can 1v1 people, I'z uber good"

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theUndead
02.17.2013 , 06:28 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkillon View Post
Let me answer your first question with this: He thinks the highest maul an assassin can do is 5k on a sorcerer, and 6k if he puts all of his points/stats towards damage, with absolutely no crit
I think i get it. But he seems to be avoiding my question to his validity so i'm going to ask again.

Quote: Originally Posted by Polymerize View Post
I'm not concerned with people knowing my 'opinion' on matters. I'm concerned with teaching other people how to play the game, because the people that are considered to be 'good' in this game, really are not. The overall skill cap on this game in the community is no where near its potential.
Yet again you say you want to teach people how? How is your "breakdown" of their performance going to help? What makes you a qualified teacher in the study of pvp? At this point all I am seeing is your take on certain classes and their strengths and weaknesses but not once have i seen any reason why I should take anything you say seriously because as I have stated you have yet to show a single thing that legitimize yourself as a learned pvper.

So please kindly enlighten me and the rest of the posters in this thread.
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Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
As theUndead mentioned, I can't exactly spell out all of our policies in depth, but that should hopefully cover your concerns.

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Polymerize
02.17.2013 , 07:05 PM | #53
I understand that you want to see some reasoning behind why anything I say should have value and carry weight. If you play on POT5, we can play some games. If not, you'll have to wait until I can record some footage.

But the way I see it is, you need to take a step back and look at these forums before I started posting ~3 days ago. No one in the forums discusses anything interesting. I'm bringing a lot to the table, versus a bunch of people bringing nothing. I could understand you pushing the issue of how I have nothing to back my legitimacy, IF there were numerous other people on these forums trying to do something positive like myself. That simple fact is there is not.

Only posts in this forum are all *****y whiny nerf this nerf that topics. I'll just stop posting if you guys want to read filth all day with no sustenance whatsoever.

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RankorSSGS
02.17.2013 , 07:15 PM | #54
Ahhhh the trolls, gotta love them.

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AngelofCain
02.17.2013 , 07:23 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Polymerize View Post
I understand that you want to see some reasoning behind why anything I say should have value and carry weight. If you play on POT5, we can play some games. If not, you'll have to wait until I can record some footage.

But the way I see it is, you need to take a step back and look at these forums before I started posting ~3 days ago. No one in the forums discusses anything interesting. I'm bringing a lot to the table, versus a bunch of people bringing nothing. I could understand you pushing the issue of how I have nothing to back my legitimacy, IF there were numerous other people on these forums trying to do something positive like myself. That simple fact is there is not.

Only posts in this forum are all *****y whiny nerf this nerf that topics. I'll just stop posting if you guys want to read filth all day with no sustenance whatsoever.
At least they are reading. let the haters hate, and just remember, some of your information has already helped some people.
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theUndead
02.17.2013 , 08:54 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by AngelofCain View Post
At least they are reading. let the haters hate, and just remember, some of your information has already helped some people.
Who says I am a hater? I did not once say that the OP is wrong or trolling nothing of the sort. All I asked was for him to give some legitimacy to what he is saying and why we should take it seriously. You say he helped you and some others that is great. But I want to see a bit more before I acknowledge it and learn from it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
As theUndead mentioned, I can't exactly spell out all of our policies in depth, but that should hopefully cover your concerns.

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theUndead
02.17.2013 , 08:59 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Polymerize View Post
But the way I see it is, you need to take a step back and look at these forums before I started posting ~3 days ago..
There are many threads in the pvp forums that do not have anything to do with balance or stuns. Yes it is a hot topic but it certainly is not posted all the time. I'm sorry but that statement shows a little arrogance. You see the forums were as they always were before you posted and will continue to be after you have posted so I am not sure what your trying to say with that statement.
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Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
As theUndead mentioned, I can't exactly spell out all of our policies in depth, but that should hopefully cover your concerns.

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ktkenshinx
02.17.2013 , 09:20 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Polymerize View Post
But the way I see it is, you need to take a step back and look at these forums before I started posting ~3 days ago. No one in the forums discusses anything interesting. I'm bringing a lot to the table, versus a bunch of people bringing nothing. I could understand you pushing the issue of how I have nothing to back my legitimacy, IF there were numerous other people on these forums trying to do something positive like myself. That simple fact is there is not.

Only posts in this forum are all *****y whiny nerf this nerf that topics. I'll just stop posting if you guys want to read filth all day with no sustenance whatsoever.
You definitely might have some interesting stuff to say. I read your Voidstar guide (the revised one, not the first mess), and found most of your points to be spot on; more people should definitely play with objectives in mind, particularly in the ways you suggested.

But even if you have something to offer to the community, your presentation can be annoying, unattractive, and repellent.
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I'm bringing a lot to the table, versus a bunch of people bringing nothing.
You are willing to dismiss every single contributor to this forum while simultaneously saying that you are god's gift to TOR? There are plenty of thoughtful discussions of classes, abilities, balance, gearing, general advice, and so on across this forum. Most of the people who post those threads are willing to let their work speak for itself. They do not just accuse the entire forumgoing population of being stupid and ignorant.
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but the way I see it is, you need to take a step back and look at these forums before I started posting ~3 days ago..
The sheer arrogance of quotes like this is pretty unbelievable. I am willing to believe that you are an intelligent person. You are probably not arrogant in real life, and you would probably be a great buddy and gaming partner to have. But when you post on the forum, you really come off like a jerk. It's one thing to try and be an authority on a subject. It's another to repeatedly insult your fellow players and posters, praising yourself at their expense.
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I will personally breakdown and analysis each moment of the game in an attempt to help convey pertinent messages to the community. All breakdown and analysis will be constructive criticism for your benefit and for the benefit of all who watch.
What authority do you have? You might genuinely have something to teach, but in presenting yourself like this, you are only annoying your readers. Have some humility, or at least try and convey a sense of humility to your audience.

Instead of trying to TELL people you are an authority, SHOW people that you are an authority.

Post an annotated video of your own game for the community's consideration. Let THEM criticize you, not the other way around. Your revised Voidstar guide was a great step in that direction; I liked reading it and there are definitely players who would benefit from your advice. This new thread is a complete reversal.

As to the topic of this thread, if you have a Pub character on Pot5, feel free to whisper me and we can queue up anytime. If you take a look at my guide, you will see that you and I are on basically the same page when it comes to objective-oriented gameplay.
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Polymerize
02.17.2013 , 10:50 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by theUndead View Post
There are many threads in the pvp forums that do not have anything to do with balance or stuns. Yes it is a hot topic but it certainly is not posted all the time. I'm sorry but that statement shows a little arrogance. You see the forums were as they always were before you posted and will continue to be after you have posted so I am not sure what your trying to say with that statement.
Let me clarify, the PVP Forums specifically are filled with crap, for the most part. I don't read anywhere else in the forum except the Classes forum occasionally.

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Polymerize
02.17.2013 , 10:55 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by ktkenshinx View Post
You definitely might have some interesting stuff to say. I read your Voidstar guide (the revised one, not the first mess), and found most of your points to be spot on; more people should definitely play with objectives in mind, particularly in the ways you suggested.

But even if you have something to offer to the community, your presentation can be annoying, unattractive, and repellent.

You are willing to dismiss every single contributor to this forum while simultaneously saying that you are god's gift to TOR? There are plenty of thoughtful discussions of classes, abilities, balance, gearing, general advice, and so on across this forum. Most of the people who post those threads are willing to let their work speak for itself. They do not just accuse the entire forumgoing population of being stupid and ignorant.

The sheer arrogance of quotes like this is pretty unbelievable. I am willing to believe that you are an intelligent person. You are probably not arrogant in real life, and you would probably be a great buddy and gaming partner to have. But when you post on the forum, you really come off like a jerk. It's one thing to try and be an authority on a subject. It's another to repeatedly insult your fellow players and posters, praising yourself at their expense.

What authority do you have? You might genuinely have something to teach, but in presenting yourself like this, you are only annoying your readers. Have some humility, or at least try and convey a sense of humility to your audience.

Instead of trying to TELL people you are an authority, SHOW people that you are an authority.

Post an annotated video of your own game for the community's consideration. Let THEM criticize you, not the other way around. Your revised Voidstar guide was a great step in that direction; I liked reading it and there are definitely players who would benefit from your advice. This new thread is a complete reversal.

As to the topic of this thread, if you have a Pub character on Pot5, feel free to whisper me and we can queue up anytime. If you take a look at my guide, you will see that you and I are on basically the same page when it comes to objective-oriented gameplay.
Thanks for some legit feedback.

I try to stay professional and good hearted but after about 50 comments from 10 different people just saying negative/irrelevant things I lose my ****. If there were more people like you, people who actually have something to contribute to the conversation, I would be much more mellow.

I've talked to a few people that have recommended 'x-split' or 'fraps' for the purpose of just recording videos. Would this be a good place to start in order for me to record videos with commentary?