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Darth Malgus vs Darth Sideous


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Spartanik
02.17.2013 , 01:50 PM | #41
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Force Storms that rip apart fleets and create wormholes.
That is just silly...
Highly doubt that he could conjure such a thing in a midle of a fight being busy though.
same way plagueis couldnt manipulate his adversary midichlorians during a fight. It would take too much concentration and time.
Not feasable. But whataver.

Its one of those powers like battle meditation or grand scale ilusions that needs preparing time and plenty of focus. Like a sorceror or wizard would in any fantastic world.
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pbajnokl
02.17.2013 , 01:58 PM | #42
And here we are again... even Han Solo could beat that "Darth Sidious". It's every thing about the so called "situation" even Darth Malgus can beat Sidious. Let me quote from Drew Karpyshyn FAQ:

"Who’s stronger – Darth Bane, Darth Revan or Darth Vader?
It’s a tie. Seriously, I can’t answer this. First, it’s not really up to me to make that kind of call. Second, it really depends on the situation. You can probably find rule books for various Star Wars role-playing games that will give you stats allowing you to compare relative strength. But from an artistic and dramatic standpoint, this kind of question has no “right” answer. Each character has strengths and weaknesses, and they grow and change as their stories progress. On any given day, at any given time, under any given circumstance anyone can win or lose. That’s what dramatic conflict is all about."
And that you all should keep in mind. Malgus have potential to defeat someone like Sidious. AND when you compare someone to Sidious apprenticies (like Maulwho was beaten by Sidious) remember that: He never ever ever thaught every thing to any of them!!! SO none of them could earn their full potential.

Edit: Dooku could beat Obi-Wan, Anakin could beat Dooku, Obi-Wan could beat Anakin... just so you can think about it again. (and Obi-Wan losed not once against Dooku).

Same for the Sith Emperor VS Darth Sidious Thread.

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Spartanik
02.17.2013 , 02:06 PM | #43
Big Thanks to you and to drew to bring some maturaty and wise cousell to this tópic or this kind of tópics anyway.
showing us what realy matters.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
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HK47: Statement: You are like a delightful random cruelty generator, master, poisoning all you touch with your presence. You are a testament to all organic meatbags everywhere.

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Wolfninjajedi
02.17.2013 , 02:13 PM | #44
Bringing the fact in mind, Han only killed Sidious because he was fighting against two jedi knights and was shot in the back(and being the most lucky SOB in the galaxy). Also that quote is rather...strange, because the feats and canon seem to point otherwise. I'd think I would take feats/canon over a quote.
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Aurbere
02.17.2013 , 02:18 PM | #45
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Bringing the fact in mind, Han only killed Sidious because he was fighting against two jedi knights and was shot in the back. Also that quote is rather...strange, because the feats and canon seem to point otherwise. I'd think I would take feats/canon over a quote.
Plus Drew doesn't hold the same authority that Chee and Lucas do. Really, the only weight an author's word has is in books. Their words hold no bearing on anything in canon unless it is signed off by Leland Chee.

So tell me, what does Malgus have that Sidious doesn't?
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Spartanik
02.17.2013 , 02:25 PM | #46
Yet doesnt make his words any less true or enlightening. Whataver canon is, because it defeats the very porpuse of storytelling.
Its not feats and powers that matter. At all.
Fail to realize this shows lack of intelectual clarity. In my humble opinion.


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So tell me, what does Malgus have that Sidious doesn't?
whataver sidious or malgus can bring to the table it doesnt matter As pointed out sidious was shot while being busy fighting other 2 jedi. If he can be shot in the back then he can be stabed in the back by a malgus lightsaber.
But if you realy want to bring hard canon to the table, even with that you can only assume situations, and evertime you do you must need to assume that Malgus as character can at least have the potencial to hold him off or even defeat him. And vice versa. Its not because drew says so, or George orn Chee its because its the very nature of dramatic story telling.
Its realy what if scenarios. Thats why i avoid to take sides in this kinda tópics because its pointless.

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(and being the most lucky SOB in the galaxy)
You know very well there is no luck. It was the will of the force all along.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
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HK47: Statement: You are like a delightful random cruelty generator, master, poisoning all you touch with your presence. You are a testament to all organic meatbags everywhere.

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pbajnokl
02.17.2013 , 02:32 PM | #47
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Plus Drew doesn't hold the same authority that Chee and Lucas do. Really, the only weight an author's word has is in books. Their words hold no bearing on anything in canon unless it is signed off by Leland Chee.
Yes, he has the same authority. That's why Lucas didn't deleted that Revan could use both side of the force in the book, or in the game and that's why that Maul is a Dathomir warrior instead of an Iridonian and that's why twileks are now able to give birth to human babes... or hibrids or what's those. Becouse Lucas and every one else could change their minds... especially Lucas, watch the old movies again and those blu-rays now.

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Darkondo
02.17.2013 , 02:40 PM | #48
No offense, but this thread is a joke. For those of you who dont believe Sidious is the strongest sith (due to the movies or not taking GL statements or what not) i recommend reading "Dark Empire" which should clear up any doubt regarding Sidious being the most powerful (if it doesnt then youve just either proven yourself biased or need to catch up on your SW lore).

Malgus isnt even in the top15 when it comes to sith lords, (Darth Jadus and Emperor Vitiate sith from his own time period are both canonically confirmed to be stronger than Malgus). The only sith that is guaranteed to beat Sidious is Darth Nihilus and its not because Nihilus is stronger. Its because hes a living black hole that consumes all life touched by the force with only 3 canonically confirmed individuals with either a defense against or have survived his sever force/drain.

Since Malgus isnt a black hole or a force god like Abeloth or the celestials, Sidious wins easily.

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Spartanik
02.17.2013 , 02:44 PM | #49
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No offense, but this thread is a joke. For those of you who dont believe Sidious is the strongest sith (due to the movies or not taking GL statements or what not) i recommend reading "Dark Empire" which should clear up any doubt regarding Sidious being the most powerful (if it doesnt then youve just either proven yourself biased or need to catch up on your SW lore).

Malgus isnt even in the top15 when it comes to sith lords, (Darth Jadus and Emperor Vitiate sith from his own time period are both canonically confirmed to be stronger than Malgus). The only sith that is guaranteed to beat Sidious is Darth Nihilus and its not because Nihilus is stronger. Its because hes a living black hole that consumes all life touched by the force with only 3 canonically confirmed individuals with either a defense against or have survived his sever force/drain.

Since Malgus isnt a black hole or a force god like Abeloth or the celestials, Sidious wins easily.
That is your conclusion and i respect it. However Him being the strongest, doesnt mean he can always win againsnt anyone at any given time.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
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HK47: Statement: You are like a delightful random cruelty generator, master, poisoning all you touch with your presence. You are a testament to all organic meatbags everywhere.

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Wolfninjajedi
02.17.2013 , 02:51 PM | #50
Edit: Just nvrm, were just gonna keep going in circles at this rate.
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!"
―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader

Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.