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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)

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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)
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Przemo_No
02.18.2013 , 01:52 AM | #951
Quote: Originally Posted by Larity View Post

Also, yeah, people deal with me, infact, we even steal guild members from other guilds.

Why? Because we have common sense and we know how to do things.

We teach others how to play and what they need to pay attention to.

We show them how to max their dps while still having fun and screwing around.

We also have a guild bank with tons of credits and items and crafting mats to help people craft new things.

We supply our own mods too from what we get to new members.

You don't need to believe me, or what anyone says because you live in your own world where everything must be spoon fed to you.

We work to achieve what we have now, we learn things the hard ways and we pay the price. We've ran dailies, heroics, hard modes, story modes, and even nightmare. Why? For the challenge? HA NO. For the loot.

Key word, we worked. MMO is about grinding, not fun. You want fun? Go somewhere else

We don't whine, we laugh it off and yell at ramino for fun (his reactions are the best)

And btw, I am the Guild Leader, and my guildmates love me.
If my guild leader would say something like that , he would not be my guild leader any longer.

I mean, this is ENTERTAINMENT. I pay for this to enjoy it, not to WORK on it. Full stop.
I have other work that I HAVE to do in order to pay my family bills, so I do not see ANY reason to be forced to do the same stuff all over again for months just to have +7 willpower or God Knows What other statistic.

To certain extent people who do those daillies/weeklies constantly must be somehow masochists.

I cannot see any other reason why you would like to do the same stuff over and over again, mindlessly beating the same content forever.

Once you did finished something (i.e. beaten the full op, or FP), got your rewards, you're done.
Over.
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translucentwolf
02.18.2013 , 02:00 AM | #952
Quote: Originally Posted by BaronV View Post
the problem with your "solution" is that everyone will be stuck wearing the same fugly end game gear that plenty of people hate so much to begin with

Sure it avoids the repair costs, but at the cost of being stuck in fugly gear. I know i worked really hard & spent lots of credits to find gear that i really liked wearing.
Yep. My 'Dread Scout' wearing slinger pays about 18k per wipe. But, my BH, in all low level orange shells pays about 6k per wipe.

So, the shell still seems to be a large factor.

Gunslinger in full Prototype Dread Scout
It's costly to look this good......
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Totaltrash
02.18.2013 , 03:12 AM | #953
Quote: Originally Posted by BaronV View Post
the problem with your "solution" is that everyone will be stuck wearing the same fugly end game gear that plenty of people hate so much to begin with

Sure it avoids the repair costs, but at the cost of being stuck in fugly gear. I know i worked really hard & spent lots of credits to find gear that i really liked wearing.
Yes, it is definitely not the solution I would prefer.

If Bioware would have just included the enhancements, as they claimed in the patch notes 1.7, repairs would have gone up by only 7-17%. That's the percentage range an enhancement contributes currently to the repair cost.
I think most people would have accepted that.

My solution is a band-aid at best, but at least it allows people to raid and do FPs without the sticker shock.
And you are right, it does come at the sacrifice of how your toon looks.

Alternatively of course, you could keep using your current gear and pay the significant higher repair costs.
Or you could stop PVE, save your credits and hope that BW will fix the problem - which they may or may not do.

Personally, I'm not holding my breath that they ever will.

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Silygoosetaco
02.18.2013 , 04:01 AM | #954
I'll be honest, i have not read from the very beginning of this thread but from what i have been reading, it just seems like a lot of back and forth arguing between people who have different play styles and beliefs on how a company should be treating their customers. Now i know i am not the most educated person in this thread but i feel like should voice my concern/opinion to this new repair cost problem.

I was raiding imperial bases out of pure boredom today to take a break from all the daily grinding that this new event/patch has given to the SWTOR community. Ill admit its nice to see new content to work and strive for to increase game activity. It has brought me back to Voss, section X, illum, all these places i don't like visiting and grinding for creds just to make a decent living. I lived off just my PVP and hm dailies thru out the week since that is all i have time for.

But anyways, after silly, fun senseless deaths to put my mind at ease, my repair bill came out to 76k. that's a 50k increase to my usual max of 26k. i don't know if its a bug or not but prices like this has caused a major concern to me. i am a casual player and there are times i like to play by myself. To pay a repair bill like that by myself, that would take a solid 30-45 min of daily grinding just to pay off that price and have a cushion for safety. I only got 2hrs of game play a night, why would i want to spend half of it to just stay ahead of the repair curve?

A solution i will most likely hear from more active players is play another character, stop playing, or deal with it and survive. That is easier to say when you carry 10mil in your pocket, I like the way i was playing the game before the patch and people shouldn't have to constantly shift their gaming tactics just to keep up with the economic curve in this game. everything was working fine before, so why mess that up? I will never be as good or have time to be as good as the hardcore MMO players i play with but changes like this, it makes it almost damn near impossible for the new guys starting out to achieve that kind of economic standing

its really late and I am exhausted and just realizing i am just rambling senselessly. i hope i made some point across that this problem is a bad one and it needs to be fixed.

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Bleeters
02.18.2013 , 04:30 AM | #955
For somer reason, I imagine any response to the current disparity between repair costs of items based on the shell is going to involve just bumping everything up to the 20k-a-death that people in Dread Guard gear are currently suffering.

That, or just unrelenting silence. Hard to tell which I'd consider more likely.

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grombrinda
02.18.2013 , 04:35 AM | #956
Quote: Originally Posted by BaronV View Post
the problem with your "solution" is that everyone will be stuck wearing the same fugly end game gear that plenty of people hate so much to begin with

Sure it avoids the repair costs, but at the cost of being stuck in fugly gear. I know i worked really hard & spent lots of credits to find gear that i really liked wearing.
Looking fugly or saving creds....I wanna save creds.
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mothear
02.18.2013 , 04:49 AM | #957
Quote: Originally Posted by ivanhedgehog View Post
Or you know absolutely nothing about what you are talking about. which is much more likely.
I've done numerous tests on my low level characters and yes I can state catagorically that levelling through the game is not impacted by this change, believe it or be a sheep, I don't care.

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danielearley
02.18.2013 , 05:18 AM | #958
Having had 8 Months away from the game , I'm sure my repair bill is actually lower now than when I stopped playing. I raided regularly, numerous wipes yeah and we paid more for the repairs.

Back then there were fewer dalies to do, but we used to group up as a guild and do a few of the Heroic. Anyone who has gone out and done their dailies as a group will know it can take about 20 minutes to do the whole of Section X!

Guild leaders if you are having problems with Guild funds set up Daily Events in your guild, have groups complete the dailies and have them donate 10% of the Creds earned to the Guild Bank, this will be enough for your repair bills and will create closer ties within your guild.

Instead of moaning People could adapt and work together to over come.

For the People who are going to say I don't get time! you get time to raid so raid with a group a different Daily section every other day, it will be something different ,to the same old raid!

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AshlaBoga
02.18.2013 , 05:24 AM | #959
Quote: Originally Posted by danielearley View Post
Having had 8 Months away from the game , I'm sure my repair bill is actually lower now than when I stopped playing. I raided regularly, numerous wipes yeah and we paid more for the repairs.
It's definitely lower than it was 8 months ago.
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Zipacnaa
02.18.2013 , 06:08 AM | #960
Wow. I mean just .. Wow.

I cannot believe those that defend this price increase. Pointing out that something was worse 10 months ago does not mean it's ok for them to "fix" the repair costs now. The game had finally caught momentum again, then this...

Most recent personal example: helped two relatively new guild players do LI caused 4 wipes and cost me 90k. We are casual players. I do BH and Section-X once or twice a week. I can't afford this if it keeps going.