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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)

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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)
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Lent_San
02.15.2013 , 02:40 PM | #551
Quote: Originally Posted by Alphasgimaone View Post
In the end, it's just another silly excuse people use to drama-queen quit.
Because that is so fun, I presume? Lordies....

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Totaltrash
02.15.2013 , 02:42 PM | #552
Quote: Originally Posted by Alphasgimaone View Post
People are unbelievable.

Complaining about a moderate increase in repair costs for a game that otherwise has NO death penalty is silly--especially in game that gives credits away.

Others have pointed out the plethora of ways these so-called "expensive" repair bills can be paid for with mere minutes of work. The "I have a life" excuse is baseless.

But, again, there is no other death penalty. Had the prices been set where they currently are at launch, no one would have noticed or cared.

However, like everything else, people have to feel entitled.

In the end, it's just another silly excuse people use to drama-queen quit.
At least for me, it's foremost about the fact that Bioware is blatantly lying to us, the customers!
This is no "bug fix" as they claim! This shows us that the game is now controlled by MBA's instead of Developers.

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Blackardin
02.15.2013 , 02:43 PM | #553
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
FFS if you're both leaving, who am I going to forum-spar with?
LOL, Darth.

I'm not going to vanish quite yet. I do enjoy sparing with Urael....and yourself on occasion, but I'm not the "hot-head" that he is and won't just up and quit. I still have some faith and am going to wait and see how this plays out but currently I'm running two levels of raids in BH+ gear. Lower one's to keep our guild supplied with new geared bodies as people migrate in and out, one for progression. if I find myself having to run mindless content just to do that I probably will hang it up.

Still holding out hope though.
May the Schwartz be with you....

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Eillack
02.15.2013 , 02:44 PM | #554
Quote: Originally Posted by Alphasgimaone View Post
People are unbelievable.

Complaining about a moderate increase in repair costs for a game that otherwise has NO death penalty is silly--especially in game that gives credits away.

Others have pointed out the plethora of ways these so-called "expensive" repair bills can be paid for with mere minutes of work. The "I have a life" excuse is baseless.

But, again, there is no other death penalty. Had the prices been set where they currently are at launch, no one would have noticed or cared.

However, like everything else, people have to feel entitled.

In the end, it's just another silly excuse people use to drama-queen quit.
Time to step off of your soapbox and enter reality.

You must love the fact that entire guilds have been leaving, but f#$^ them right?
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Quote: Originally Posted by BruceMaclean View Post
..I think it's ultimately our fault for not communicating enough.

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Ratajack
02.15.2013 , 02:44 PM | #555
Quote: Originally Posted by TheRainbow View Post
It's been said before, your average (male) SWTOR player in his mid 30s with job and kids does not have the time to play in the conditions the increased repair costs dictate. While I can burn money on the cartel market like crazy and afford to pay plenty of real cash, I simply can't afford to play more than I'm playing now. If there's no mechanism for the majority of your player base to stay financially afloat with in game cash they're going to walk away. If my sub hadn't just ticked over I would have walked away already. I'm crossing my finger that a fix is in the pipeline, but quite frankly I'm getting more and more pessimistic about the game.

SWTOR can be an excellent mix between a serious MMO and an enjoyable past time for casual players. The increased repair cost have only tilted it in a way excluding anyone who is not willing or capable to spend twice the time on dailies they'd spend in progression runs.

And the formula that calculates repair cost is definitely out of whack. Below the repair costs for 1 death for

1 x Shadow tank, full black hole , with Cartel Chest, but BH shells otherwise: 9106 credites
1 x Sage DPS, mostly legacy gear, with BH and Dread Guard, 12600 credits,
1 x Commando DPS, mostly legacy gear, with BH and Dread Guard, 8329 credits,
1 x Gunslinger, mostly Tionese with some recruit, 5761

It seems there's a vanity penalty if you wear certain shells.
While I'm no longer in my 30's, I do have a job and kids. I work 50+ hours a week, bowl 3 nights a week on different leagues, sometimes subbing on my non-league nights, coach the youth bowling league my daughter is in, help around the house with things like laundry, dishes, etc. If I have time to sign on most days, I'm lucky. Even rarer are the days I get to spend more than in game. I do not relish having to spend any of the time I get to play doing dailies, but I do it because it's one of the easier ways to earn credits. I do not rely solely on dailies for my credit income. I also craft and sell items mats on the GTN.

The increased repair costs impact me, as well. I'm just not here crying for them to be reverted to what they were before the bug fixed.

If the repair costs are not being calculated as it seems that EA/BW intends that they should be, based on the item modifications and not the shell, then that should be corrected. It should not cost more to repair a purple dread guard chest piece shell with dread guard mods than it does for black talon level orange chest piece with those same dread guard mods. The cost to repair both items should be the same, based on the them having the same mods. This may not be the same as pre 1.7 costs, though.

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DarthTHC
02.15.2013 , 02:44 PM | #556
Quote: Originally Posted by Totaltrash View Post
At least for me, it's foremost about the fact that Bioware is blatantly lying to us, the customers!
This is no "bug fix" as they claim! This shows us that the game is now controlled by MBA's instead of Developers.
Nah, there are other options.

I'm sort of hoping it's the "One of our developers saw the bug on the list and fixed it without any forethought, communication, or testing" thing. Guess we'll see. Joveth said they're looking into it so he owes us an answer.
Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought. ~ Isaac Bashevis Singer

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Urael
02.15.2013 , 02:45 PM | #557
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
He may be obsessive, he may even be offensive, and yeah, one could accuse him of being harsh

.....but he is absolutely correct in his assessment of this debacle. ;p

.....and you didn't go back far enough. Unreal has always been harsh, but he has never been a liar. I can also validate his claim that he was once a staunch supporter of this game, as was I.
Thanks man. I know we butted heads a bit. Nice knowing that even though people don't see eye to eye on every issue there can still be mutual respect.

That goes for you also DT.

I like the typo .. kinda "poetic" in an ironic sorta way ...

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Spiritinblack
02.15.2013 , 02:50 PM | #558
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
Limitations of a substandard search engine. I have pretty much posted daily since 20Dec2011. Not my fault that the full history of the forums is not visable via the search tool presented.

Your "research" is limited and your "causal" linkage is flawed. I did "play the heck" out of the game. I "enjoyed" what I played until I couldn't effectively play anymore. Patch 1.4 degraded my play due to nVidia graphics drivers and the "graphics enhancements" it never returned to pre-1.4 (and somehow around that time new drivers increased my WoW game play go figure ... ). I payed months of subscription after that waiting for a fix. Still to this date I am still in a "hitching" and degraded state. I can only solo, if more than a few people are shooting things I freeze so no war zones for me or ops. While I mainly solo this hasn't been too much of an issue, but I nolonger have the "option" of fully participating in all that SWTOR has to offer. Months of paying a sub. Waiting. Nothing. Now with the FFA PvP and all the jerks that it brings out and the untoward repair costs. How much more time should I give EA/EAware? Yeah I think in the end you and your ilk are the true trolls. You only offer strawmen and paltitudes with no substance for what passes for argument.
It's not worth it Ureal. No matter what you say, or bring up, people will not listen.
When the shoe is on their foot, the, and only then, will they realize what has happened tot his game.

I'm sorry that it came to this for you. Out of everyone I have talked to on the forums, I thought YOU would be here forever. My wife and I recently unsubbed as well. Due to ALL the bs from eaware. This is not the game from beta.
I understand games change from beta on, but this one has gone down the tubes. ( My opinion. people can flame it all they want,it means squat. Just like me saying it).

Good luck to you Ureal. Hope you find a game that is worth your time, and a forum you can "troll" lol.
I have been called a hater for voicing my opinion. So be it. But I would rather die on my feet, then live on my knees.

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Blackardin
02.15.2013 , 02:51 PM | #559
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
Thanks man. I know we butted heads a bit. Nice knowing that even though people don't see eye to eye on every issue there can still be mutual respect.

That goes for you also DT.

I like the typo .. kinda "poetic" in an ironic sorta way ...
LOL, that's hilarious! I did it in two threads. Totally unintentional. I blame the spell checker!

....and You're welcome. Was easy. You've always been forthright.
May the Schwartz be with you....

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lordnortamos
02.15.2013 , 02:51 PM | #560
Alright, this is the last post I'm going to make about this particular topic. These boys who cried wolf are going to be back within the week mark my words. They're only trying to get attention from Bioware to get what they want and trying to threaten Bioware by saying "if you don't change the game so it suits my personal needs I'm going to stop paying to play or stop playing altogether". Bull. Once you get what you want or get a compromise you'll be back, they always come back, it happens in WoW and it will happen here.
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