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Desiirea
02.04.2013 , 01:38 PM | #21
It's a known fact there are good players on both sides. I have no idea why this keeps coming up.
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02.04.2013 , 01:59 PM | #22
There's more drama on our server forums than The Real Housewives of Atlanta tv show. I wouldn't know because I haven't watched it, but Manka won't shut up about it.
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Aikon
02.04.2013 , 02:25 PM | #23
There are good players on both sides. On the Pub side good players are a bit more spread out, in different guilds, whereas on the Imp side good players are a bit more concentrated. I think with F2P it has also attracted a... a lot of newer players. While I'm not sure about it, I think the majority of these new players are Pubs, which has led to Imps having more of an upper hand in pre-50 PvP. At 50 though, it's more balanced. But at times when guilds are rolling in their 4-mans, it may seem otherwise.
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Devinia-Hex
02.04.2013 , 02:43 PM | #24
There is a lot of fresh 50's in the game currently and I think there are more for the Imp side then Republic. I play some games on my Sage when I'm waiting for my Cybertech items to finish crafting and it's hit or miss with a solo queue for both sides.

One of the reasons for the supposed bad play and under geared players is for some the game is new. We don't know the age or skill set that some of the new players bring. If you level through PVE and decide to jump into a game at 50 with people in full Elite War Hero there is going to be a large fall off in gear and PVP skill.

I sit there and complain to myself when I see 3 people with 14k hp buffed, 3 at 16k buffed and none having over 500 expertise. Some players you can't tell by the end game results if they were trying to heal or do damage because both figures were equally low. It's very rough especially when your trying to keep these players alive while being focused and they're dropping like fly's.

I think even with cross server Warzones this would also happen becuase you would get paired with random players from pve servers etc. The only way to avoid this is to solo queue less. I won't blame these players unless it's a trend where you see the same person never getting better never working to improve their gear and then seeing this person on a regular basis to take notice.
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Aikon
02.04.2013 , 03:01 PM | #25
Whoops, double post. Those darn smart phones.
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02.04.2013 , 03:09 PM | #26
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stringcat
02.04.2013 , 03:30 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Desiirea View Post
It's a known fact there are good players on both sides. I have no idea why this keeps coming up.
I think it keeps coming up because a Republic team with no premades generally stomps an Imperial team with no premades. The question isn't whether there are good players on both sides. The question is the average quality spread across both factions. There seem to be more inexperienced or undergeared players Impside.
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bsbrad
02.04.2013 , 04:42 PM | #28
At 50 the balance between good and bad shows a lot so if 1-2 players are not pulling their weight you will get steamrolled. As a healer (N'abi) myself I can usually tell in the first fight whether I am dealing with good PVPers or new 50s.

The amount of time I have seen players attacking when they should be capping is annoying. Although I do find it funny having 2 or 3 players constantly beat up on me the entire match. If you get 2 healers working in tandem we can be annoying for any team to take down.

I do believe the pubs have overall the better PVP players and generally queue as groups with a defined strategy whereas us imps to blindly go into the batlle with little or no strategy and play the 50s WZ as though it was pre-50.

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PoliteAssasin
02.04.2013 , 04:46 PM | #29
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It's a known fact there are good players on both sides. I have no idea why this keeps coming up.
No kidding. Idk if its this guy or someone else, but pub fleet chat was full of the same talk yesterday on about three separate occasions.

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I think it keeps coming up because a Republic team with no premades generally stomps an Imperial team with no premades. The question isn't whether there are good players on both sides. The question is the average quality spread across both factions. There seem to be more inexperienced or undergeared players Impside.
Or a pub team with no premades stomps an imp team with premades. Sometimes vice versa. The main issue with imperial pvpers isn't gear, that's actually a bigger issue with some of the pub pugs, but lack of skill. And you could attribute it to f2p but lets be honest its been that way for quite a bit before that, after a lot of the imperial pvp guilds died off around August/September. I solo queue a lot on the pub side, and do alright for it. But when on imp side its more difficult to help the team win when its usually just one person doing everything. Their ether sitting on a node farming medals, not cooperating with each other, or don't go for objectives at all. Simple truth is you'll run across that more often in the imp side than the pub side. I don't say this to hate on imps, as I'm originally imp, but its just the current condition of the faction. And believe it or not as much as I don't agree with the actions or attitudes of your guild, I look forward to fighting you because generally that's the only time I, and possibly others, get much of a challenge when fighting imps these days.
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Khalhazar
02.04.2013 , 04:59 PM | #30
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First, Semah, you're awesome so take that humility thing to the curb
Belated thank you for this. :-)

Livia and I were doing some <50s on both sides yesterday and the situation was pretty dire, no matter which faction we were playing.
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