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A message to the PUG community.

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cashogy_reborn
01.31.2013 , 03:54 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
LOL... you know my PT on POT5 is named Awshii'et right? Add me if you haven't. Been slacking on POT5 but plan on getting back in it after the wedding/honeymoon.

And that's exactly it... it's an excuse which is easier than accepting ones own failures for most. As soon as the gear grind wasn't a logical complaint the 37th division of the nerf pre-made brigade took off in full force.
YOURE ON POT5??!?!?!?!?!?!? zomgz
Dany - Attomm - Dan'y - Fogel
The Original Stormborn Commando Representative
The King of Bads

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UGLYMRJ
01.31.2013 , 03:56 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Washingtoon View Post
On the contrary, his post is, as usual, manifesting a complete lack of logic, presence of several contradictions , naive expectations that a community effort can solve all problems and what he seems to believe is a cleverly hidden "I'd like to keep rolling pugs".
I would actually prefer competition on a reglar basis and not only expect to get it when we have good enough team composition to form a rated team and fight the same 3 guilds on my server.

And the only expectation I have is the same one pushed on us by our parents and any role model... strive to be better. If people can't take that kind of logic into a video game I'd hate to see how well they perform in the real world.

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sirullrich
01.31.2013 , 03:56 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
LOL... you know my PT on POT5 is named Awshii'et right? Add me if you haven't. Been slacking on POT5 but plan on getting back in it after the wedding/honeymoon.

And that's exactly it... it's an excuse which is easier than accepting ones own failures for most. As soon as the gear grind wasn't a logical complaint the 37th division of the nerf pre-made brigade took off in full force.
Yeah that's why I said that . O and what level are you with your PT. We are making a rateds team and we might need a PT. I am rolling a jug hybrid/tank for this new team. LMK

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UGLYMRJ
01.31.2013 , 03:57 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
YOURE ON POT5??!?!?!?!?!?!? zomgz
Yeah... still lowbie... only kept my attention for a few days. Hard to find enough time lately with real life shenanigans. Getting married next friday.

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cashogy_reborn
01.31.2013 , 03:58 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
Yeah... still lowbie... only kept my attention for a few days. Hard to find enough time lately with real life shenanigans. Getting married next friday.
married? dayum
Dany - Attomm - Dan'y - Fogel
The Original Stormborn Commando Representative
The King of Bads

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General_Aldo
01.31.2013 , 03:59 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
This only applies to those who complain about pre-mades ruining war zones for them. You fail to look at it from any other perspective other than your own. Here's the breakdown of the double edged sword.... Let's look at who gets shafted more, yet complain less.

Scenario #1: Pre-mades ruin war zones for PUG's on the opposite team by better communication, coordination and often skill. PUG's get wrecked and aren't happy, immediately log onto forums and click "new thread".

Scenario #2: PUG's are so poorly organized that they literally lose the game for the 4 man pre-made. Pre-made loses what should have been an easy win.

Scenario #3: 4 man pre-made and PUG on same team.... pre-made carries PUG team to victory. (They don't mention this in the list of complaints)

Scenario #4: PUG's carry pre-made to victory.... just kidding... that almost never happens...

-The other tidbit of information that often gets left out is that there are pre-mades in nearly every war zone, on both sides. The only difference is most of them are bad and it goes unnoticed. They don't mention that either.

-The PUG's who go idle in war zones to farm coms... don't get mentioned either in these lists of complaints.

-The PUG's who shoot down from the edge of their end zone at the warriors in the pit on huttball... also don't get mentioned.

-The PUG's that go on Rambo missions and do nothing but hurt the team... well... they don't get mentioned either.

-The PUG's that put up 50K in stats during a 15 minute voidstar.... no one mentions him in those threads.... but that's probably because HE IS the guy starting the damn thread.

So before you complain... think about who's really getting the worst of this situation.

My point in this is... the pre-mades (good ones) get screwed more often than you PUG's and WE'RE the ones doing the heavy lifting. It's amazing that so many of you can sit here and complain about pre-mades wrecking your face when 2 games later that same pre-made is getting you an easy win.

Want to solve the problem? Use the tools available... form a guild, form a pre-made and get better.

Disclaimer: I know there are good PUG's out there that understand the game and this post does not apply to you. However, you are the minority. The majority of guilds are awful and the PUG's are even worse on average.

In the end... I only hope that one PUG gets this to sink in and the next time they want to complain about pre-mades, they stop, and think... and realize that it's the ones who are putting forth the extra effort by learning to play the game properly, forming groups and organizing tactics and strategies that are far more affected by PUG's vs pre-mades than you PUG's who hop on twice a week for an hour before bed and spam force lightning while face tanking a marauder.

This public service announcement has been brought to you by UGLYMRJ.

The more you know... (Insert rainbow here)
I have read your posts for a long time. You try so hard to spread logic to people who will never understand. When the game first came out, I was in the best guild on The Maw. We did a lot of pre-mades and won a lot of the games. Since the server merge, I have been pugging ALL of my warzones. I have been on both sides of the fence. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with pre-mades. This game allows people to guild and queue in groups for a reason. I am a commando heals, which is a very tough class to pug in. I know the pain of losing games. Being in a pre-made doesn't guarantee a win. I have won against pre-mades before (Only if the pug is good.) People who are bad will always find something to complain about. People want to find a reason to put the blame for their lost. Most people who play this game will never realize they aren't as good as they think. Cutting to the point, all I do is pug now, pre-mades are not an issue and should be allowed. I have been rambling for far too long, take this post and thread to heart and reflect your true skill on this game.

This was a bunch of random words and sayings, but I agree with you UGLYMRJ

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UGLYMRJ
01.31.2013 , 04:00 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by sirullrich View Post
Yeah that's why I said that . O and what level are you with your PT. We are making a rateds team and we might need a PT. I am rolling a jug hybrid/tank for this new team. LMK
I still have a long way to go... but I'm gonna XP boost the hell outta him tho and hopefully give em some more attention when life is back to normal. Most likely not until early March unfortunately... but I'm sure 10 days in Hawaii will make me miss TOR a bit less.

You're in Hawaii ain't ya? Gonna be at the Makena resort on Maui (spell check)

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sirullrich
01.31.2013 , 04:01 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by General_Aldo View Post
I have read your posts for a long time. You try so hard to spread logic to people who will never understand. When the game first came out, I was in the best guild on The Maw. We did a lot of pre-mades and won a lot of the games. Since the server merge, I have been pugging ALL of my warzones. I have been on both sides of the fence. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with pre-mades. This game allows people to guild and queue in groups for a reason. I am a commando heals, which is a very tough class to pug in. I know the pain of losing games. Being in a pre-made doesn't guarantee a win. I have won against pre-mades before (Only if the pug is good.) People who are bad will always find something to complain about. People want to find a reason to put the blame for their lost. Most people who play this game will never realize they aren't as good as they think. Cutting to the point, all I do is pug now, pre-mades are not an issue and should be allowed. I have been rambling for far too long, take this post and thread to heart and reflect your true skill on this game.
You are a smart man my friend!!!!

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GodsFavritPerson
01.31.2013 , 04:02 PM | #19
Now they're organizing to beat up us pugs on the forums? Premades are evil.

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Nigredo
01.31.2013 , 04:02 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
LOL... you know my PT on POT5 is named Awshii'et right? Add me if you haven't. Been slacking on POT5 but plan on getting back in it after the wedding/honeymoon.

And that's exactly it... it's an excuse which is easier than accepting ones own failures for most. As soon as the gear grind wasn't a logical complaint the 37th division of the nerf pre-made brigade took off in full force.
all the best to you and your husband ^.^