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James Ohlen: "Makeb is not an expansion"

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James Ohlen: "Makeb is not an expansion"

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AlienEyeTX
01.31.2013 , 11:06 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Eszi View Post
http://youtu.be/txpfoYS36FQ
Go to 5:07

So they said it themselves - this is NOT an expansion. Looks like bioware is just trying to see if we are willing to pay for a patch, as long as it has a fancy name attached to it. Looks like we are, but hey, people are paying $18 for recolored stuff on cm, so why not

And they you wonder why people don't trust bioware

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This is from June last year. Things change. Plans change. It has been announced and offered as an expansion. 'Nuf said.
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Rafaman
01.31.2013 , 11:15 AM | #72
Lol! The OP is hung up on the semantics. Apparently that makes a difference in the pricing scheme to him or her.

Ok... how about we call it an "Epilogue" (to a new chapter), will that help you get over it? Or how about a "Re-charge pack," does that make a difference?

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FromTheDuDe
01.31.2013 , 11:39 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Leovinus View Post
Wow, that means if you don't buy it at all, and stay subbed, you're paying $15 for NOTHING at all. Which means you'd be stupid not to plunk down an extra $10 and get the whole DLC "expansion" pack.

See what I did there?

Your mathematical gymnastics are astounding.
Thats funny logic coming from someone who states that "not" giving them 10$ means its a total waste considering you can wait and see if its even worth 10$ instead of just blindly giving them money since they do SUCH a good job of managing it /eye roll.

Not to mention my "mathematical gymnastics" have basically proven that for the average game supplier you aren't even getting a decent amount of content, for 20$ more(which according to you guys is just 2x 10$ which is chump change!) you're getting about 1/3rd the features. Its a simple content to money ratio that makes the DLC not expansion, expansions aren't DLC, DLC is garbage that should of been in the regular game just like Bioware stated early on that makeb was free for subs. I have no problems giving a company who isn't shady as **** the benefit of the doubt when things change, but when they have ****ed up so much and have only themselves to blame for hastily releasing info instead of just saying "we have no new details at this time." I find it hard to give them the benefit of the doubt. Not to mention your fanboism is astounding.

Don't promise something because things do change, instead release things when iunno you realize your game isn't imploding and losing subscribers faster then it is gaining them.

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Izorii
01.31.2013 , 11:51 AM | #74
How old is this video though a lot of things could have changed, plus isn't James Ohlen currently locked in a mental asylum at the moment?

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Stradlin
01.31.2013 , 12:22 PM | #75
As a related side note, when was the last time James Ohlen commented on anything having to do with SWTOR?
Considering how the letter to community earlier this year was written by the guy who thinks we should all die after seeing some ridicukous Xmas cash shop mount, I guess it is starting to look like he has been removed from his position?

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Mallorik
01.31.2013 , 12:28 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
Please give the official 2003 MMO feature list. I didn't know there was an official document that detailed what an MMO in 2003 would have and also detailed why those features were 2003 exclusive. Can't believe I missed that. Can you please link it to us?
So you believe there has to be an "offical document" to make something an industry standard? thats funny, i thought it just meant the minimum of what is expected of your product because all of your cometition has it and has had it. Im not aware of any "official document" that says texting and a touch screen are now standard for smart phones, if youre not an idiot and have been using smart phones for a few years, you just know they are.

Bioware could start with a combat window and macros, something nearly every mmo has had since 1999.

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Frostbyt
01.31.2013 , 12:51 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Eszi View Post
What do you mean? It's just $10
lol. This thread has potential
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jorill
01.31.2013 , 01:21 PM | #78
Technically isnt this 20 dollars unless you preorder? They could of added features or more content then originally thought as well since way back then. Also the staff has had some major turnover as well so you cant take anything that was said back then

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Quraswren
01.31.2013 , 01:26 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Eszi View Post
http://youtu.be/txpfoYS36FQ
Go to 5:07

So they said it themselves - this is NOT an expansion. Looks like bioware is just trying to see if we are willing to pay for a patch, as long as it has a fancy name attached to it. Looks like we are, but hey, people are paying $18 for recolored stuff on cm, so why not

And they you wonder why people don't trust bioware

inb4 ninjadelete and/or infraction
Back then that may have been true.

However, since then we have had F2P and any information you are hanging onto before that is pretty much null and void. As well as over time who knows how much Makeb has changed plus who know right now if it's worth $10 or not.

What little information we do have, it does indeed sound like it's headed in the direction to be worth $10.

But it is now an expansion either way. Accept it cause it's not changing.

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Arlon_Nabarlly
01.31.2013 , 01:34 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by jorill View Post
Technically isnt this 20 dollars unless you preorder? They could of added features or more content then originally thought as well since way back then. Also the staff has had some major turnover as well so you cant take anything that was said back then
Price doesn't change by pre-order. Price changes based on if you're a sub or not. Subs get it for $10, free for $20.