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Darth Maul + Count Dooku + Asajj Ventress vs Darth Sidous

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Darth Maul + Count Dooku + Asajj Ventress vs Darth Sidous

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Darkondo
01.28.2013 , 09:21 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Really, the only one who can actually hold his own here is Dooku. Taking The Force out of it, only Dooku would be able to hold the Dark Lord of the Sith off, if only for a brief while. Dooku's mastery of Makashi and his natural fencing style give him graceful maneuverability, but Sidious was able to defeat Yoda in lightsaber combat.

A 'no Force' duel between the two would be intense, but Sidious' use of Juyo and the agressive Forms will eventually overcome Dooku.
For the record he didnt beat Yoda in their fight, Yoda just fled after he realized he couldnt kill Sidious, Give credit to Yoda though he's the only one who caught Sidious' lightning and lived, Sidious was even shocked you could see it in his face. Saber combat wise neither disarmed the other unless you count Sidious' lightning.

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Harlequintwo
01.29.2013 , 08:13 AM | #12
A better lineup would be Maul, Dooku, Asajj, Savage, Mother Talzin and maybe Grievous to add good measure. I think even Sidious would crumble that all of those forces working together.

As for the three that you've put up, they'd probably give Sidious pause, maybe even a wound, but it would most probably end up like the four Jedi masters that accused him of treason. Asajj would die off pretty fast, Maul would follow soon after and Dooku would basically just be blocking until he too falls.

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Sith_Kingpin
01.29.2013 , 09:37 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Harlequintwo View Post
A better lineup would be Maul, Dooku, Asajj, Savage, Mother Talzin and maybe Grievous to add good measure. I think even Sidious would crumble that all of those forces working together.

As for the three that you've put up, they'd probably give Sidious pause, maybe even a wound, but it would most probably end up like the four Jedi masters that accused him of treason. Asajj would die off pretty fast, Maul would follow soon after and Dooku would basically just be blocking until he too falls.
Ohhhhh... I don't wanna go down that road just yet. One name you mentioned there is Mother Talzin, and from what we've seen of her, she is immensely powerful and can manipulate the Force like no other. Examples of her feats:

Materialize matter out of thin air (the cup she gave Dooku etc...)
Teleport and fade out of sight as seen numerous times.
Witchcraft that was going to kill Dooku if General Grievous didn't interrupt.
The ability to track Darth Maul from parsecs away and fix his mind and his legs when he's brought before her.
Her green lightning that took out a battalion of droids.

I've missed out some of her powers, but you get the point. Until we know just how powerful she is and what her true agendas are (she's manipulative and a lair, that's for sure) we can't know for sure her maximum potential.

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Leonick
01.29.2013 , 09:47 AM | #14
I think how quickly Mace Windu, Saesee Tiin, Agen Kolar, and Kit Fisto was dealt with tells you pretty much all you need about how quickly this fight would be over
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Sith_Kingpin
01.29.2013 , 11:53 AM | #15
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I think how quickly Mace Windu, Saesee Tiin, Agen Kolar, and Kit Fisto was dealt with tells you pretty much all you need about how quickly this fight would be over
Yep it's settled then lol. Darth Sidous wins this fight under any rules. Maybe he could even win with 1 arm tied behind his back? Lol. People still argue Darth Vitiate could defeat Palpatine which is laughable. Palpatine would annihilate him to ash with a few arcs of lightning.

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Darkondo
01.29.2013 , 01:56 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Sith_Kingpin View Post
Yep it's settled then lol. Darth Sidous wins this fight under any rules. Maybe he could even win with 1 arm tied behind his back? Lol. People still argue Darth Vitiate could defeat Palpatine which is laughable. Palpatine would annihilate him to ash with a few arcs of lightning.
Its cause most people havent read Dark Empire, even I thought Emperor Vitiate was stronger til I read that.

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Darth__Carnal
01.29.2013 , 03:51 PM | #17
In order to defeat Darth Sidious, you must be able to defend against Force Lightning..

Ventress - Every time Dooku used Force Lightning against Ventress she was unable to defend against it. So she would be dead rather quickly if she went against Sidious.

Savage Oppress - That damn Force Lightning ! Savage clearly shows that not only is he unable to defend against it, he begs Dooku to teach him how to defend against it. So he is dead quickly also.

Darth Maul - Both at his prime and now during the Clone Wars, has never used Force Lightning and has shown no ability to defend against it. Worse, now that Maul is half cyborg, he certainly runs the risk of becoming paralyzed from the waist down during a fight against Sidious.

Count Dooku - He has clearly mastered his use of Force Lightning and has shown that he can defend against it when he repelled his own lightning bolt battling Yoda. Dooku could easily hold his own against Sidious.

The question is, can Dooku defeat him ? Maybe. With the help of the others certainly. Dooku would use the others as cannon fodder while he looked for an opening. The problem with Force Lightning is it requires you to be stationary. That is a serious flaw in combat. Dare say while Sidious was using Force Lightning on the first target the other 3 would attack him simultaneously and it would be over.

However Sidious is not a fool, chances are he would know this and not use Force Lightning during the battle. This means he would have to whittle the numbers down using lightsaber combat. This could prove difficult especially since all of them use different combat styles.

As weak as you may think Ventress is, she will be a pain in the neck to deal with using her speed, flexibility, and dual lightsabers. Savage with his brute strength will force Sidious to stay mobile and Maul has experience dueling Sidious so he can easily give advice to the others. Dooku would stay at range using Force Lightning and reserving his strength for the killing blow. Sidious will have no choice but to retreat.

Maul, Savage, Ventress stay melee, and Dooku range, and it is highly doable you will have 1 dead Emperor.
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Wolfninjajedi
01.29.2013 , 07:15 PM | #18
No Carnal....no, none of them stand a chance against the most powerful sith lord ever.
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asumothegrate
01.30.2013 , 04:33 PM | #19
Sidous mastered battle meditation he would own all of them plus manipulate them to fight each other lol

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saremun
01.30.2013 , 05:53 PM | #20
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Sidous mastered battle meditation he would own all of them plus manipulate them to fight each other lol
lol fully agree!