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TwitchingFiber
01.25.2013 , 06:44 AM | #1
So I've been checking a few swtor streams out lately, I've just recently come back from a long long break, 7+ months. I've decided to just re-level a whole new class to fully get back into the game.

So yeah, I'm amazed on how many clicker there are in this game...99% of them clickers are complaining about something, mainly because they got outplayed, or were just too slow because of clicking spells instead of actually using keybinds.

Just a helpful hint, aka PROTIP, for everyone who clicks spells you are limiting yourself on how well/fast you are it would be more beneficial to you if you practiced using ALL keybinds (Well not all, but you get the point.) Watch videos, re-level a new class just to practice how you like your keybinds.

I know someone is going to post "I click and I don't have any issues" "I click and I know it's faster than keybinds" Well, you're wrong. Once you practice keybinding you will realize what you're missing out on. Also, once you get the hang of it, you will see a dramatic increase in your performance.

Also, while clicking you are spending time looking at your spells more than you are looking at whats going on around you. You lose some awareness while clicking.

Moral of the story clickers, please practice keybinding. It will help you out tremendously.

Love,
Twitchypoo


EDIT: This is a great post from a someone who clicks, with many great points. Can't really argue with this.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ooloi
Keybinding is a consequence of using mouse movement. Mouse movement is more efficient and particularly for melee in pvp provides a serious advantage over keyboard turning.

If you are using mouse movement, then you can continuously move around people who are trying to keyboard turn and click while you are spamming some number of keybinds, getting behind them.

Some people don't realize that while in PvE if you run behind something and then click it will still allow you to attack the creature without turning to face them, but in PvP you must be facing them. Anyone who can move out of the angle of your range of attack and keep moving can hit you constantly while you're trying to adjust and even 1-3 global cooldowns can mean you're dead and they're not.

Step one is to stop using left and right turns and only use left and right strafe. Step two is to not use the back-up key for movement in pvp. Step 3 is to starting using the mouse to move forward (you can click both right and left buttons simultaneously to move foward. Step 4 is to keybind some essential melee skills to keys that you can easily hit while you are moving around them.

The idea of starting a new character and learning to run around someone in a tight circle while hitting even a few basic keybound keys is a good one. How much you keybind after that is up to an individual's skill and reflexes.

I click, mostly, always have. In PvE it doesn't really matter in this game. In PvP, if you are melee it becomes essential when you are playing against so many people who do use mouse movement and keybinding, unless you just like to lose. I myself have a new character where I'm learning all this. My ranged characters in PvP have allowed me to be accepted amongst those of my peers who are better than I, but my melee post 50pvp toon is pretty awful and it impacts my dps and my ability to support my team.

Being open to new concepts and improvements in your play is a good thing. Sure, it's "just" a game, but it's fun to be competent, and allows most people to have a better time while they play.
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Fornix
01.25.2013 , 06:51 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by TwitchingFiber View Post
Just a helpful hint, aka PROTIP, for everyone who clicks spells you are limiting yourself on how well/fast you are it would be more beneficial to you if you practiced using ALL keybinds. Watch videos, re-level a new class just to practice how you like your keybinds.
Well, I prrefer keybinds, but I most definitely don't use ALL keybinds. Some are just too impractical. Anything right of 7, is pretty much out of reach for me. So on skill bloated characters, the occasional skill placed on 8 or beyond (with or without modifier) will be clicked as it's simply faster and more tactful than letting movement go .
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AsheraII
01.25.2013 , 06:54 AM | #3
Pro Tip: Hybridize the two systems. Cooldowns are long enough to easily reach the right side of your screen for the more uncommon abilities anyway. Those who only keybind limit themselves to maybe a third of all the abilities they have available, which isn't exactly useful for your performance either.
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TwitchingFiber
01.25.2013 , 06:54 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
Well, I prrefer keybinds, but I most definitely don't use ALL keybinds. Some are just too impractical. Anything right of 7, is pretty much out of reach for me. So on skill bloated characters, the occasional skill placed on 8 or beyond (with or without modifier) will be clicked as it's simply faster and more tactful than letting movement go .
Well not all is necessary. I don't keybind my buff or spells rarely used. For me, 7 is as far as I go with the numbers. Then I uses Shift and Alt as my modifiers. Then use Q,E,R,T,F,Z,X,C,V as my letters. All very easy to reach, and all work well with a shift, and alt modifier.
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Delidumrul
01.25.2013 , 06:56 AM | #5
I'm not a clicker nor say that any1 cud be as fast as a keybind user by clicking. moreover i dont care who clicks, who keyboard turns. I haven't seen such a community b4 so obsessed about clickers and keyboard turners.

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TwitchingFiber
01.25.2013 , 06:59 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Delidumrul View Post
I'm not a clicker nor say that any1 cud be as fast as a keybind user by clicking. moreover i dont care who clicks, who keyboard turns. I haven't seen such a community b4 so obsessed about clickers and keyboard turners.
I only mention it because I want to see more people succeed. And just fully clicking on all spells ( I didn't even mention key turning) limits someones playing ability.
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AsheraII
01.25.2013 , 07:00 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Delidumrul View Post
I'm not a clicker nor say that any1 cud be as fast as a keybind user by clicking. moreover i dont care who clicks, who keyboard turns. I haven't seen such a community b4 so obsessed about clickers and keyboard turners.
You can find them on all MMO's. But the hardcore keybinders are a bit upset in this game that clicking actually gives such acceptable performance.
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Delvianseek
01.25.2013 , 07:04 AM | #8
I click. I am happy with clicking. I have no issues with clicking. Noone has picked me up on performance in PVE or PVP. I have tried keybinding but feel more comfortable with clicking. I suppose its just whatever you feel more comfortable with - at the end of the day its just a game

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Pirana
01.25.2013 , 07:05 AM | #9
It's been an ongoing discussion regarding Healers and having to click windows/portraits to heal group members in Operations versus having them key bound.

Always been a key binder myself, it's faster.
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Frobington
01.25.2013 , 07:07 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Delvianseek View Post
I click. I am happy with clicking. I have no issues with clicking. Noone has picked me up on performance in PVE or PVP. I have tried keybinding but feel more comfortable with clicking. I suppose its just whatever you feel more comfortable with - at the end of the day its just a game
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