Dear Bioware please balance PVP Teams

Effort required to get full War Hero fully optimized for that gear level:
About a week to two weeks getting comms for gear and more comms to get rid of crappy mods, and then about a million credits to augment your gear (more if you go for purple augments).

Effort required to get a premade of your own going:
Type "50 PVP anyone?" in guild chat when you log on.

Friends don't let friends solo queue.

It never ends...

Gear is beyond easy to get now and so are friends. It's an MMO F F S!

Whatev dude, you know full well my participation trophy is better than yours cause I'm on welfare, smoke "special" cigs, and play SWTOR all day.

I just renewed my sub with my EBT card...

Damn dude, I just got some cards that fell of this truck yesterday, and I made friends with this guy who gave me 1Cr to be his friend. His name is MMOWIN. We be premading all the time...

I went to a restaurant but I couldn't get a table, someone had reserved a table of four. This is unfair, prebooking is ruining restaurants! I bet they were on welfare too!

(I have a six figure salary, am a space pilot, and I'm married to Scarlett Johansson btw).

Maybe you should just pay to win since clearly Scarlett is overpowered and you have better things to do with her...

I totally agree and you just explained why I love puging and don't group up. What you left out is its not completely random, the random pug is almost always getting matched up to the non random premade. Using your analogy I'm playing with the random hand I'm dealt against somebody who got to pick and choose his hand from the deck.

I want to go into a game that is 100% random where my outcome is determined by my own skill and ability to come together with others. That is perfect if the opposition is playing by the same rules; my randomness vs their randomness means the skill becomes the deciding factor. But usually the pug is matched against a team using a third party program to give themselve an unfair aadvantage over my team. Now me and my teams skill and accomplishments are moot.

My question is why are premade players so against split queues?

We're not suggesting taking away your ability to play with your friends or guild. We're just suggesting that you be matched up against people that have the same advantage you have. Why do you see that as something to oppose?

The opposition is on two fronts:
1. Ques are already split, yet barriers exist for one, so does adding another split make sense given the populations?
2. Premading don't guarantee a win or a faceroll for that matter. And even the built in advantages aren't even utilized 100% of the time (sometimes we are playing grabazz with the female guild members)... There is no possible way a premade will faceroll a competent, decently geared PuG (unless the RNG gods lined up 8 DPS Mercs against the servers top premade).


The solution is simple.
Premades 8EA que for Ranked Only.
Premades 4EA que for either, but not both.
Premades 2-3 Normals.
Solo Normal only.

I'm not even complaining about gear. I'm just saying it takes even less effort to form a premade. If you don't that's on you.

Also whats all this you guys talking about your premades always matched against PuGs. I'd say the vast majority of my matches, using a premade, is against another premade. Maybe everyone on shadowlands just wised the hell up.