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Kaggath Tournament - Grievous vs Revan vs G0-T0

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Kaggath Tournament - Grievous vs Revan vs G0-T0

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Warren-Stride
01.18.2013 , 11:42 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
I never said G0-T0 was confined to Nar Shadda, just stating that is where his main power is. If that gets taken away from him, then he is lost a huge chunk of power.
I would agree, but you're missing the point. The Exchange doesn't need to make money. They already have it. G0-T0 already has it. All G0-T0 needs to win he already has. And he can maintain it with Credits he already has. Losing Nar Shddaaa would not kill any of his "troops". G0-T0's power would only be prevented from rising if he lost Nar Shaddaa. But he already has all the tools he needs.

Besides, this would never happen anyways. Good luck attacking Nar Shaddaa, it's just not gonna end well for the aggresors.
~~ AiR ~~
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Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?

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Wolfninjajedi
01.18.2013 , 11:44 PM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by Warren-Stride View Post
I would agree, but you're missing the point. The Exchange doesn't need to make money. They already have it. G0-T0 already has it. All G0-T0 needs to win he already has. And he can maintain it with Credits he already has. Losing Nar Shddaaa would not kill any of his "troops". G0-T0's power would only be prevented from rising if he lost Nar Shaddaa. But he already has all the tools he needs.

Besides, this would never happen anyways. Good luck attacking Nar Shaddaa, it's just not gonna end well for the aggresors.
Yes it has money, but again....G0-T0 can only use his powerbase according to the rules. Which is Nar Shadda, which means he wouldn't be able to draw on the other credits or resources of the Exchange as a whole because that means he would be indirectly taking things from the other Exchange bosses to help him. Beni needs to clarify if that is allowed or not, if it is thats fine but if not then all G0-T0 has is what he has on Nar Shadda.

This might be different if G0-T0 was the actual Exchange leader because then he'd have access to the entire powerbase and resources...but he isn't.
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Aurbere
01.18.2013 , 11:45 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by StarSquirrel View Post
The Sadow vs Kun thread... I know I voted for Kun, but every time I read another reason Sadow would lose I died a little on the inside.
I know. I had originally hoped Sadow would win, but he got put up against Exar Kun. Really, Naga Sadow would have beaten anyone of these guys except Kun and possibly Traya.
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Warren-Stride
01.18.2013 , 11:48 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
Yes it has money, but again....G0-T0 can only use his powerbase according to the rules. Which is Nar Shadda, which means he wouldn't be able to draw on the other credits of resources of the Exchange as a whole because that means he would be indirectly taking things from the other Exchange bosses to help him. Beni needs to clarify if that is allowed or not, if it is thats fine but if not then all G0-T0 has is what he has on Nar Shadda.
That would be like saying Grievous was indirectly getting help from every single one of his planets. Same with Revan. They can draw on resoucres from their organizations, why can't G0-T0?

"All G0-T0 has is what he has on Nar Shaddaa". Credits are able to be moved. Assassins and bounty hunters are able to be moved. G0-T0 is able to be moved. G0-T0 could simply pick up and leave Nar Shaddaa, by his own choice, and start up a criminal organization on anotherplanet, left unclaimed by underworld people who no longer exist. Everything he has is mobile. Also, he's a master of business. Destroy Nar Shaddaa and he will have a new source of "main income" within the week.
~~ AiR ~~
What are you more afraid of?
A weapon that could destroy you?
Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?

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StarSquirrel
01.18.2013 , 11:50 PM | #115
Hey I have a crazy question here. G0-T0 always presented himself as a human in holograms (ie Goto) so would the basic information his opponents get about him suggest he was human? That might make a difference in the way certain opponents think when facing him.
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Warren-Stride
01.18.2013 , 11:51 PM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by StarSquirrel View Post
Hey I have a crazy question here. G0-T0 always presented himself as a human in holograms (ie Goto) so would the basic information his opponents get about him suggest he was human? That might make a difference in the way certain opponents think when facing him.
This is how it SHOULD be, but no, they know he's a droid. I have no idea why, or who told them that, but oh well.
~~ AiR ~~
What are you more afraid of?
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Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?

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Wolfninjajedi
01.18.2013 , 11:55 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Warren-Stride View Post
That would be like saying Grievous was indirectly getting help from every single one of his planets. Same with Revan. They can draw on resoucres from their organizations, why can't G0-T0?

"All G0-T0 has is what he has on Nar Shaddaa". Credits are able to be moved. Assassins and bounty hunters are able to be moved. G0-T0 is able to be moved. G0-T0 could simply pick up and leave Nar Shaddaa, by his own choice, and start up a criminal organization on anotherplanet, left unclaimed by underworld people who no longer exist. Everything he has is mobile. Also, he's a master of business. Destroy Nar Shaddaa and he will have a new source of "main income" within the week.
The reason why GG and Revan can, is because they are the leaders of their organizations. G0-T0 is just 1 leader out of several leading an organization. Yes all of the things can be moved, but all of this takes time which what G0-T0 won't have if he is found, Revan could use Interdictors to stop G0-T0's ship from going anywhere when he arrives at Nar Shadda and leaving him a sitting duck.

Plus Beni needs to clarify, its probably against the rules if a combatant can just leave and set up somewhere else. I would take a guess, if said combatant leaves their powerbase that constitutes as a loss. Otherwise a lot of these guys, could just go skipping around the galaxy.
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Warren-Stride
01.19.2013 , 12:00 AM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
The reason why GG and Revan can, is because they are the leaders of their organizations. G0-T0 is just 1 leader out of several leading an organization. Yes all of the things can be moved, but all of this takes time which what G0-T0 won't have if he is found, Revan could use Interdictors to stop G0-T0's ship from going anywhere when he arrives at Nar Shadda and leaving him a sitting duck.
GG is not the leader of the CIS. He's the leader of the Seperatist Army. So why does he get the support of the CIS?

This argument has become redundant.

G0-T0 will have plenty of time. And it doesn't take much to transfer your credits off-world, fly away in your already-stealthed ships and take you bounty hunters, who are used to being on the move, with you.

Since when does Revan have Interdictors?

Even if Revan does have those (I doubt that.... evidence?) G0-T0 will not be a sitting duck. Good luck finding a stealthed ship before the entire underworld rips your fleet apart.
~~ AiR ~~
What are you more afraid of?
A weapon that could destroy you?
Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?

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Warren-Stride
01.19.2013 , 12:01 AM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
Plus Beni needs to clarify, its probably against the rules if a combatant can just leave and set up somewhere else. I would take a guess, if said combatant leaves their powerbase that constitutes as a loss. Otherwise a lot of these guys, could just go skipping around the galaxy.
Nar Shaddaa is not G0-T0's powerbase. His assassins, HK-50s, and the Exchange are. By leaving Nar Shaddaa he is leaving his HQ, not his powerbase. And you only lose if you die. And people have skipped around the galaxy before (Mandalore).
~~ AiR ~~
What are you more afraid of?
A weapon that could destroy you?
Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?

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StarSquirrel
01.19.2013 , 12:03 AM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
The reason why GG and Revan can, is because they are the leaders of their organizations. G0-T0 is just 1 leader out of several leading an organization. Yes all of the things can be moved, but all of this takes time which what G0-T0 won't have if he is found, Revan could use Interdictors to stop G0-T0's ship from going anywhere when he arrives at Nar Shadda and leaving him a sitting duck.

Plus Beni needs to clarify, its probably against the rules if a combatant can just leave and set up somewhere else. I would take a guess, if said combatant leaves their powerbase that constitutes as a loss. Otherwise a lot of these guys, could just go skipping around the galaxy.
Lets meet in the middle here, G0-T0 and his credits get out of Nar Shadda. They're easy and fast enough to move to escape Revan and Grievous's mobilizing their forces to wipe out Nar Shadda. Now, he has lost the mercs and exchange leaders under his direct control but he still has HK-50's and a pile of credits. For him, thats enough to win this fight.
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