Why do people give so much hate?

For real.Go to the starter planets.Also hit those further down the line.The numbers are looking good imho.

This game is a lot of fun to play, if you don't mind competing for quest resources, from 1-50, once on each side.

After you've been wowed by the stories, though, it becomes somewhat less fun and more tedious. Even getting through the other 6 class stories becomes rough because you have few choices to level up:

1) Do the same planetary and side quests again
2) Chain-run Warzones, Flashpoints, Space Missions, or a combination thereof

Lots of work just to get to the level you need to see the next installment of each class's story.

All joking aside,

There is the key word: Investors. They are, in large part, the problem with this game. The investors didn't understand the medium, listened to the hate, and bailed. When a part of their capital gets up and walks out the door, panic ensues. F2P was just put in place to get rid of the subscription report. There is a delicate balance that must be struck between company, investor, and customer, and EA did not find that.

Setting yourself up for failure by saying "...we are going after a majority of the market share" of a game that has been out for 8 years, without having 9-10 yrs of development is kind of stupid. Making grandious claims, while at the same time, not releasing pertinent facts about your game, leads to bad things. Add in, not developing your own engine (using the HERO Engine instead) so that almost no one understands the tech. Then, those who do, are exited in one way or another. When you go back to the designers of your engine, they don't understand it anymore due to the massive amount of modification. You have a recipie for disaster.

While you guys are arguing semantics, I have one question: Does SWTOR currently have majority market share?

Thanks for reminding me to go play LotRO. I had to pay rent.

By the way, more EA executives moonlighting on Star Wars fansites, this time EA Games president Frank Gibeau. LA exec Tom Nichols in just to pile on.

http://www.vg247.com/2008/10/24/wow-...asarts-and-ea/

Thundergulch, Midasear, ready for your mea culpas?

Wha? Because they said it has high potential? and the opportunity is there?
What are you trying to prove here? I don't get it.

You've been disputing that EA execs said they were trying to beat WoW. You claimed only Star Wars fansites said SWTOR could beat WoW. You've been proven wrong multiple times now, but don't have the moral fibre to admit it. Your inability to understand simple English would be baffling if I didn't already know that it's just a psychological block to protect your vulnerable psyche from admitting error.

See there? Their goal is to attract an "even wider" audience than WoW. By the way, I know you have this problem interpreting things, so allow me to explain that by "even wider" they mean greater in numbers. Not that they want "wider" people to be playing it, though I'm sure if they do corner the fatso market they'll be on their way to beating WoW.

Really, how long are you going to bury your head in the sand? All you have to say is, "I'm sorry, I was wrong. I should have done a little research before shooting my mouth off." I even typed it up for you. You can just copy and paste. I think this could be cathartic for you.

Wow.. using over 4 year old quotes to prove your point about a 1 year old game.

And I thought people complaining about pre-F2P promises not being kept were living in the past.

Important to note here: The only people who ever claimed TOR would dethrone WoW were EA execs in the years running up to the game's release in interviews/statements directed at investors, aka: the people that needed to pay for a few more years of development.

Also, another thing.. in 2008 the entire MMO market was still on the idea that WoW was not a freak accident and that others had the possibility to also get multiple millions of people willing to play the same single game for years and invest monthly money in those games. With all the great and big titles coming the last years and not one coming even within a 10% mark of WoW when it comes to concurrent subscription numbers, you can now say, in retrospect, that WoW was a freak accident.
A freak accident that, itself, is also dying in today's market I might add.

He's trying to prove that they didn't get it either.

It seems you fail at reading comprehension.
A wider audience doesn't mean it will knock off wow, it doesn't mean that it will have more subs than wow.
You're interpreting it as they are saying they are going to be king of the hill. Which is where you're wrong.

WHAT IT MEANS is that it can/could attract people that don't normally play MMO's or possibly games in general.
a wider audience is just that, it could attract Uncle Joe in his 50's that loved the original movie and wants to see how the game is.

And you can stop with the insults anytime now.